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Zelensky confirms Israel sent Patriot missile battery to Ukraine, says more coming in fall
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Israel is a logical ally to Ukraine because both are being attacked by an evil entity using fake justification. The more nations are acting both against Russia and radical Islam, the better. To have a nation as advanced as Israel on the right side on this is a very good thing.
That is a facinating take the active genocide taking place in Gaza, carried out by Israel.
Israel isn't sending it because they're nice. They're sending it because it's a 30 year old system and they want new equipment. And it also makes them look slightly better. Though it would be difficult to look any worse for them.
Is that how you see the genocide in Gaza? That Israel is being "attacked by evil entity with fake justification"?
It's definitely not "the genocide". I don't think it's even "a genocide". As clarification, this is an example of what I think qualifies as a genocide: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_genocide and I am aware that UN has far far less stringent definitions. I don't think we should be watering down serious concepts like UN is doing there.
But yes, that's how I view Israel's justification for the Gaza War. Obviously Russia's justification for invading Ukraine is even more ludicrous than Hamas's justification for terrorizing and invading Israel regurarily, but it's not exactly sane either.
Hamas is obviously the greater evil in about the same way as Nazis were obviously the greater evil in Europe in WW2. Beating them was also extremely harsh for german civilians sometimes. Dresden firebombings killed 25 000 people in a single bombing raid, in a population of about 600 000 people. Relatively speaking about as many deaths in that one day than total in Gaza since October 7 2023.
Was it necessary? I cannot tell definitely, but probably not all of it was and probably most of it was.
"Genocide is only when my enemy does it"
You may not like it, but Israel is doing a genocide. The definition is clear
Not reading all that Free Palestine
You are a horrible human being and I hope hell is real.
There aren't conflicting definitions of what genocide is, where did you pull that "fact" from? Genocide is a systematic killing of people, as per your own link. And that's exactly what Israel is doing. No?
First, I'm just stating facts that you are a horrible person, if you feel insulted it's on you.
Second, I made a very valid argument, but your reading comprehension is really bad. I will repeat it just for you:
There aren't conflicting definitions of what genocide is, where did you pull that "fact" from? Genocide is a systematic killing of people
So can you tell what are those different definitions of genocide that you mentioned??
Sure, a watered down definitions. Like the Nazi watered down the definition of humanity to exclude minority groups (like the Jews) to make it "OK" to kill them.
The UN definition of genocide is a commonly agreed definition by the international community, to not only encompass the clear genocides, like WW2 genocide or the Rwanda one, but also more pernicious way of committing genocide, like Israel is currently doing. And Israel is part of the UN, they had a say in that definition.
Genocide is about denying a group their humanity, by robbing them of their lives (as an example through indiscriminate bombardment), famine, or simply killing them at random for being on the wrong side of the road (which, of course, change every other day).
Other means are by trying to destroy their culture (as an example Ukraine invaded land where every trace of their culture is being erased), which Isreal does by removing their "unwanted population" way of life (robbing their land in Palestine, building roads made to prevent them from being able to reach their usual pastures).
The current Israeli government doesn't even hide their ambition. They want all for Palestine land, without the Palestinian that lives there for centuries. There are no other way to achieve that than genocide, be it brutal, like the final solution, or insidious, like the Russification of the Donbas. Israel is in between. Brutal, but disguised enough to not create on outright reaction from the global community. A slow but steady murder of a population, while distracting other with claims of terrorism (which are partiality correct), and antisemitism (which, once again, are sometime correct, but very rarely lately).
But the only way to prove or disprove any of those side would be for journalist to go and see by themselves. Which is steadily being denied by no other than the Israeli government.
So the only ones that can report on what happen are either the locals, which Israel take good care of silencing, or the IDF, which of course tells everyone to go look elsewhere.
In conclusion, both side are as evil as the other. Which is why I'd support none of them. But there are innocent populations in between, that all have the right to live a happy and peaceful life. Those are the people I'd support, not the living trash that govern both.
Ootko sä oikeasti tosissasi? Vaikutat trollilta tai muuten vaan toopelta. Kyse ei ole vuosikymmeniin ollut mistään "sodasta" vaan ihan etnisestä puhdistuksesta. Taidat hakea kommenteillasi vain huomiota ja vastakkainasettelua
This is the most illogical and ahistorical shit I’ve read all day. The only way you can frame the genocide of the Palestinians as defense against an evil entity is if you want to arbitrarily start history at a point decades after Israel began killing and displacing millions of people. That’s the same sort of intellectual dishonesty that Russia has used to fabricate historical rationalizations for their invasion.
Where did you source this data? Based on mainstream sources (UN, OCHA, B'Tselem) the number of Arabs displaced from modern day Israel/former territories of Mandatory Palestine from '47 until 2025 are between 995 - 1'105'000 and the number of casualties 67 - 105'000.
As a comparison, the number of Jews displaced from Arab countries during the same period number somewhere between 800-900'000.
Here's the Lancet with a conservative estimate of 186,000 (7.9% of the population) between Oct '23 and May '24, obviously this money will be higher by now.
It's very difficult to count, because non-Palestinian journalists aren't allowed to enter, and Palestinian journalists aren't allowed to continue being alive.
Interesting although contentious letter detailing an estimate of potential indirect conflict deaths (it includes potential future deaths).
However, it seems rather simplistic and/or flawed. They simply multiply the casualties Hamas have reported by a "conservative" x4 multiplier which then gives their number. The multiplier comes from this publication and states that most of the casualties are "indirect and caused mainly by preventable infectious diseases, malnutrition, and neonatal- and pregnancy-related conditions that emerged in the resource-poor post-conflict environment." - which means that this number includes post-conflict casualties that have not yet happened and are preventable. Furthermore, the base number already includes a lot of indirect civilian deaths, and unlike the other conflicts that the x4 multiplier comes from is heavily reported on and followed by media/authorities.
This article from Die Welte is more recent and examines a more robust study.
Still, even if we took the estimate provided by the Lancet here at face value, OP's claim of "millions of people" looks like absurd misinfo to me.
Yeah, them being pissed at Russia and then backing the Middle Eastern equivalent of Russia is some serious cognitive dissonance shit
That country is providing them with air defense missiles, so... (yes, it's a shit situation)
Israel has more in common with Russia than Ukraine.
They are the aggressor. Palestinians are just defending themselves while living in the largest open-air prison on earth.
Fuck zionists and their simps. 9/11 happened specifically because of US support of Israel.
It's not worth it.
Sure. I just think that at some point after Israel left Gaza the last time in 2005, there was a long window of opportunity for gazans and palestinians to make everything better, but they totally failed to do so. Instead, they specifically voted in to power a terrorist organization who for the next almost 20 years did pretty much nothing except prepare to attack Israel.
There are reasons why prisons are made.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas
Typing random sentences won't make you right
Oh they aren't random, that there was deliberately grafted bullshit
Israel has never removed itself from Palestine. Israel has been occupying legally recognized Palestinian territory for decades, and have used every excuse to continue to take more.
Are you talking about nazi "state" of israel? They're one of the r asons for radical islam. Them and fucking USA. And brittish colonial past.