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[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz -1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yes, if you oppose capitalism too much, you just start hating minorities. That's just horseshoe theory. They wouldn't teach it in schools if it wasn't true.

Definitely don't come to China, Vietnam, or Cuba and check for yourself, just trust your government.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly wouldn't go there if you paid me, but I respect the journalists brave enough to do so.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

wouldn’t go there if you paid me

Why? Vietnam is beautiful, experiencing towns built around bikes instead of cars and being able to buy good meal for 1.20 USD is good for your soul. China is the most developed country in the world right now, and I'm planning to go back in a month or so. I haven't been, but I hear Cuba has lovely beaches and rum.

Were you under the impression these places were dangerous?

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

It's a single party autocracy with a very bloody history involving the west. Even if being abducted, tortured, and buried in an unmarked grave is the exception to the rule, it's still a hell of a lot more likely than a progressive nation.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

That's a bizarre claim to make when America has been abducting people, torturing them, and vanishing them, without due process for decades, and I am not aware of such a case happening in any of those 3 countries. Except in 2012, when China caught the CIA's spy network and charged them with espionage.

As far as the bloody history goes, the blood is only on the hands of the side that invaded and subjugated them. Also the people here in vietnam are way less bitter about the war, despite having a much better understanding of what happened than the average american.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like whataboutism. I don't really recommend vising the USA. Maybe you should have higher standards than "very unlikely (citation needed) to be abducted and murdered by authoritarians".

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I just defaulted to USA because it's where I and (I think) most lemmitors are from.

In any case, it's trivial not to get abducted and murdered, simply don't commit espionage.

It's weird that you only single non-western countries out when most countries treat espionage pretty seriously.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

You are not the one who will decide if you are a spy. Do not place your destiny in the hands of proven liars and murderers.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 6 hours ago

No justice system lets the accused judge their own guilt, but the US admitted those guys were spies.