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Just the beginning with the party, with dwarves in a sort of dance-cleaning party was absurd IMO.
They're there to fight or die, only Gandalf (IIRC) managed them to even consider taking a hobbit with them. It should have been grim, but with a take making it possible, not a song and dance performance.
In all it's too "American" (IMO) ; simplistic plot with easy to understand graphic battles. Then Win!
I also hated the painful play of Frodon and Sam, like some sort of painful master/slave idiocy. Not naming a totally overplayed Gollum.
Well well, I remember the end of the Hobbit was plaisant, and it was a long time ago I saw them so maybe I should rewatch them :-)
You seem to be confusing the two trilogies, I don't think many LOTR fans will defend The Hobbit movies for anything but the performances. Also with regards to "it's all too American," the LOTR films were written and directed by a New Zealander based on a story by a Brit
Not only that, but looking at the cast, it looks like LOTR is New Zealanders, Australians, or Brits.
https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_the_Lord_of_the_Rings_film_trilogy_characters_and_cast_members
I mean, if there was a single internationally-popular movie or series that you could choose to take issue with as being "too American", this doesn't seem like it'd be the one I'd choose.
For American audiences though, that's where the money is. And who produced it too. Not saying you're wrong, just to anyone outside the US it has the feel of it.
From Wikipedia:
I didn't say it was an American movie, just that it is "too American". Too dumbed down. Too "bad person bad, because ugly", "good person good looking and will win", graphic battles etc.
The Frodo/Sam dynamic comes from Tolkien's experiences in WW1. A fair example of this dynamic would be the Blackadder/Baldrick dynamic in Blackadder Goes Forth.
Apparently it was a thing where higher class soldiers had a bloke supporting him. Not sure if it was solely based on rank or social status
Interesting, bug the book isn't cringy like that though.