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The world’s biggest maker of sensors for self-driving cars has poured cold water on the chance of rapid growth for fully autonomous vehicles, saying society and regulators are not ready to accept deaths caused by machines that drive themselves.

“Close to one million people lose their lives every year to car accidents. If a technology company builds a vehicle that kills one person every year, that’s one-millionth of the difference, but it will have trouble to survive,” said Li in an interview."

I suspect the biggest obstacle to fully autonomous vehicles is the backlash against the unemployment they will cause. Safety will be used as an excuse to bolster that narrative. My guess is that by the 2030s, it will be clear to most people that they are far safer. They already are now, and they will be far more advanced then.

Top sensor maker Hesai warns world not ready for driverless cars

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (8 children)

It is a question of legality more than the harm itself. When a driver kills someone, someone is responsible. When an AI kills someone, I'll be damned if the car company will accept liability.

[–] Lugh 3 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Won't there be insurance for this?

If companies like FedEx can bear the cost of liabilities for huge numbers of human drivers, doesn't that suggest the burden will be far less for robo-vehicle car companies?

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Maybe, but who pays those premiums? The driver? If it's the auto manufacturer paying insurance premiums in perpetuity on cars that they don't own, that will incentivise them to not actually sell those cars, but to lease them instead. The change in liability with a mass adoption of self-driving cars necessarily changes the structure of overall ownership of transport.

In the span of a century we will have went from publicly owned transportation to a system of transportation owned by corporations. This is the deeper question that has to be faced by self-driving car technology in the face of much cheaper, more environmentally friendly, safe, achievable public transport options. Automakers have shaped the conversation around transport funding for so long that these questions sound almost conspiratorial, but I urge you to consider the wider ramifications of the technology. It might seem cool to sit in a car that is driving itself, alone and unbothered, but I cannot shake the sense that it is borne of an individualism that chiefly benefits moneyed interests.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Excellently put.

It frustrates me to no end that this kind of longer view is rarely taken.

As my grandfather would say "who's ox is getting gored?". Some beneficiaries drive such change, some stand by and wait for their opportunity to collect their share.

Too much of this seems pushed by monied interests just using sophistry to make this sound like it's better for everyone.

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