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[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

I mean, fall, for Americans, is a period within autumn in which the leaves of most trees fall.. Not the whole season. Here's some sauce from the world's worst English dictionary.

Edit: Excerpts:

A number of writers used the phrase "the fall of the leaves," which then came to be associated with the season. This phrase was shortened in the 1600s to fall.

And quoted from a poet, in turn their friend:

"In North America the season in which this [the fall of the leaf] takes place, derives its name from that circumstance, and instead of autumn is universally called the fall."

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Your source doesn’t say that at all.

Autumn and fall are used interchangeably as words for the season between summer and winter. Both are used in American and British English, but fall occurs more often in American English.

[–] itslola@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Jeez, some alternative facts from Merriam Webster right there 😂 I've never heard a British English speaker (or speakers of any other UK English variant, for that matter) use 'fall' to denote a season.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 hours ago

i mean it might just be very very recent, considering how global american media is it's not surprising that younger brits would start treating the words as interchangeable.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Is “spring and fall” actually a set phrase or not? My actual nit to pick was that “fall” only refers to the early part of the season, I just wanted to get a little more of the quote.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah if someone says "fall" in the UK it's an instant outer that the person speaking is either American or has spent a very long time there

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 days ago

I’m from Kentucky. Second week of October is the best time of year for that. For word usage, fall, because fewer syllables. That’s not hating on Kentucky. That’s just farmer/backcountry people favoring efficiency.

We got crazy stories in Kentucky, some of them are women fighting for education

[–] juliebean@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

your first sentence seems to fly in the face of everything that article says, as well as my 35 years of lived experience with the english language. i'm curious where you've been where they use "fall" in that manner?