After the suspected shooter has been detained, the FBI held a press conference to report on the case and announce the next steps going forward. Spoiler: we, as leftists, are fucked.
Key points:
- The shooter is Tyler Robinson of Utah.
- His friend reported him to the FBI.
- Tyler's Discord messages have been used as evidence, as provided by his roommate.
- ~~Robinson has been reported to be getting increasingly political, and during dinner one day, he spoke about how Kirk was "full of hate".~~ UPDATE 4: Tyler did not say that.
- The casings do not contain any trans references. But they do have anti-fascist rhetoric (bella ciao and "notices bulges OwO" included) and symbols engraved in them.
- Tyler was taken into custody on September 11th, 10 PM local time.
- The investigation is still ongoing.
- One guy cried while speaking.
- Thousands of more leads of potential accomplices are being followed.
- No other arrests are known
- Tyler drove to campus on a car.
- It's not known if Tyler is mentally ill.
- The charging documents will be filed 3 days from now (September 16), then a preliminary hearing will take place.
(Added by LangleyDominos)
- Patel awkwardly trying to signal the Norse viking larp shit. "Charlie, I'll see you in Valhalla"
- Utah Governor Cox told everyone to log off and stop consuming rage bait, called social media a cancer, and that everyone should "touch grass" (his actual words).
UPDATES
- ~~UPDATE 1: Tyler apparently donated to TRUMP??? WHAT~~
- UPDATE 2: ignore update 1
- UPDATE 3: new link to donations check (POTENTIALLY MISLEADING!!!)
Tyler Robinson's mugshot
Other sources:
To be honest I don't buy the groyper theory at all. The suspect here apparently told his family that he disliked Kirk for "spreading hate". I'm pretty sure that's not the groyper critique of Kirk. Also pointing at playlists with 30 saves or videogame mods with 90 installs about how Bella ciao has been reclaimed or "fascist catch" is from a videogame is not convincing evidence. Neither is judging from his appearance. If average looking white dudes couldn't be leftist, this website would not exist. And the "Republican donation" is most likely not the suspect, the donation appears to have been made by a 30 year old, and not him (who would have been 17 at the time). There are probably many people with the same name in Utah. Pointing at his parents politics makes little sense either.
To be honest it all sounds like a load of cope from Reddit and Bluesky because "one of their own" may have just killed a political commentator, and they want to deflect at all costs to claim some moral high ground and muddy the waters.
The part that's really going to screw the left or liberals over is the public reaction over the past few days, and not necessarily the motives of the suspect. 1000s of people have likely been already fired because the right is straight up doxxing everyone who celebrated the killing of Kirk and contacting their employers, and bragging about getting them fired. With so many liberals posting (under their real name and profile photo) about how glad they are that Kirk died, it's like shooting fish in a barrel for the right wing doxxers. This kind of thing (openly celebrating death of political opponents) is severely off putting for most apolitical/normal people, which is why so many people are losing their jobs . Kirk could have died in his sleep at this point, the reaction has sealed it.
The one thing I find really sad is his parents Facebook posts being plastered all over the internet. By all accounts this kid had a good life and was doing well, and threw it all away to assassinate a political commentator. That's just sad.
lol sure nick fuentes is just randomly disavowing for no reason, and it's definitely more likely that a fucking white 22 year old dude from utah just "happened" to engrave stuff that are used as memes by groypers, you kinda sound like the groypers im seeing on twitter desperately trying to deny this tbh
also source on family? im seeing a tweet here that claims the exact opposite: https://xcancel.com/DavidShuster/status/1966576856515203480 (tbc this isnt great evidence either but i'd like to see you post something showing that he "disliked kirk for spreaking hate" at least as substantial as a 100k follower 16 year old account with no blue checkmark appearing to do original reporting)
like seriously, nick fuentes has been sperading hate about kirk for years trying to get something like this to happen, the odds of this being a liberal or especially a leftist are already so low based off of that alone that it's super weird to act like thinking he's a groyper is "cope"
it's not "impossible" but do you really think it's not way way more likely for someone who looks like that to be a chud than leftist in the state of fucking utah? It's also far more likely for someone to have the same/similar views as their parents, so his parents political beliefs actually are relevant!
I don't think they sound like a groyper. And I don't think you sound like a twitter lib. We're all trying to piece together bits and pieces we see online and that's a farce under the best circumstances. We're also trying to relate every piece we find to our own experiences and interpretations of what's happening which is also very tough. Be kind to each other and don't get too caught up in being correct about this because it's likely we're all going to be wrong about the details as this thing unfolds.
i dont think marmite is a groyper, tbc. but it's extremely frustrating for me to see the exact same kind of dismissal of evidence (which groypers are using in bad faith) that a white 22 year old from a cop family in fucking UTAH of all places is in fact more likely to be a groyper than a leftist or even a lib
Marmite isn't from the US, so cut them some slack. Everything about this points to some racist groyper. I mean, he's some white dude from fucking Utah.
i actually thought about that, i would have given them more grace if they hadnt been acting so condescending
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/sep/12/charlie-kirk-shooter-suspect-latest-news-updates-donald-trump-utah
i ain't trusting a fucking high school white boy from wealthy whitesville utah to know what leftist political views are.
Yee I’m also on r/trueanon. Wild
this is the best evidence i've actually seen of this so far thank you
It’s terrible news but I gotta spread it because the groyper theory was convincing me
it's an anonymous phone call by a highschool friend, I'm still taking it with a grain of salt, using groyper references still needs to be explained imo
like, i know journalists vet this kind of thing but it wouldnt be very hard for someone who went to the same highschool pretend to be his friend to lie about how close they were or lie about this political views etc.
there's also every chance this guy was lying to his schoolmates/parents, how many stories are there about someone getting shitcanned because their secret racist posts got exposed
Plausibly deniable groyper references, imo. Could be internet poisoned in either direction
if he was a liberal/leftist purposefully using the same things as groypers just to confuse people for a couple days until his discord logs come out i'll keel over in shock i think, groypers already are pretty obscure (literally didnt know about them until like a year ago because of HB) i really wanna know what kind of internet rabbit hole this guy was in
I also believe every ounce of evidence pointing in the left direction would be spread by the Feds, so it’s weird that it takes a reporter to wring that out of some kid
yeah again, if this guy was a leftist where the fuck is the manifesto? why use such weird video game references that groypers also use?
Speculation from Utah randos isn’t evidence for anything
Were they still friends recently though? he could have changed since high school.
wait, this reads like the family member of the shooter said this, not the shooter himself???
this was redacted
edit okay it seems before it was redacted, it was considered "left" because he critiqued trump? and would be uncertain of political views after they lost touch in highschool
are you saying shuster is covering his ass or keith olbermann? im not sure what keith olbermann has to do with anything tbh im not seeing anything that says shuster got this from olbermann
ok. so are you saying olbermann is just making this up then?
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looks like it just keeps happening over and over
Toastify is awesome!Ok but the right has been doing that for literally my entire life and it has never seemed to discredit them.
It's annoying too, because when you confront a chud about this, they do the smug thing and say
"
Heh, NO I don't you liar, in fact I condemn when the left is attacked"
Such disingenuous shit, I hate it I hate them so much.
How are you doing civility bs about a chud who denies the Palestinian genocide and was talking about black crime stats when he was shot?
He never said that.
CK wasn't some "political commentator" he was a rabid fascist. The guy's dad is also wearing a 3% shirt in one of the pics they took together. You feel sad for some white Republican family?
As for whether he was a left winger or a groyper, why would the same people who were calling for a war against the left suddenly quiet?
assuming he's a groyper: nobody is gonna just say to their parents "charlie kirk sucks because he isn't antisemitic enough"
"Spreading hate for America, Christianity and white people." could be the subtext. I've seen and heard that before out of nazis. They co-opt the language and make it about them getting victimized. They're "just defending themselves from hate against white people" as a cover.
Not trying to over-analyzd limited evidence but that was the first thing that came to mind. Those kinds of people unironically exist and it's baffling.
personally i think it's more likely that he is vaguely left than a far-right channer
but
it had the helldivers 2 button combo for the 500kg bomb on it, that straight up is from a video game
Much better has been the people posting Kirk saying horrible things imo
Edit: Ignore this comment, it was a fake pic
Do we think those are The Black Converse?
Nah I think that was actually a fake picture nvm
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