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Whether big or small. We all have that one thing from Scifi we wished were real. I'd love to see a cool underground city with like a SkyDome or a space hotel for instance.

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[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 74 points 2 days ago (3 children)

the end of scarcity. that's a totally bogus concept that capitalism uses to keep the rich in power. we produce far more than the whole of humanity would need to feed and cloth themselves, and we have more houses empty than there are families. we could end poverty right now, we just choose not to.

[–] Noise7@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well more accurately, some of us did chose that for the whole of us

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 16 points 2 days ago

you got me there. there's plenty of us who would love to see everyone get a fair share.

[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not just capitalism, but all forms of corrupt, greedy governments.

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

which are all capitalist, thank you for agreeing with me.

[–] kerntucky@infosec.pub 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think you might be mistaken if you think that corruption and greed are exclusive to capatalist societies. Yeah, it's rampant in captialism, but it can be present in any type of economic system. Greed and corruption are a human trait, not an economic one.

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

At no point did I even give the barest, most minute, even microscopic hint that corruption and greed were exclusive to capitalist societies. So I would not, in fact, be mistaken about anything I said.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The whole "we have plenty of housing if only the greedy capitalists would give it to us" claim is very much false. Empty homes are typically empty for a reason. They are being remodelled, or are searching for new renters, or have been condemned, or are in a legal limbo of some sort, etc. The idea that rich people are buying homes en masse and then keeping them empty makes no sense, since they would make more money by buying those homes and then renting them - then they get appreciated home values and rent money to warm their cold, capitalist hearts.

What is actually happening is far more mundane: people are moving to more desireable areas, and are choosing to live in smaller households. A two bedroom home that used to house mom and dad and Jack and Jill in their bunk beds now houses only Jill, plus her home office. And you can't force Jill to take in a homeless man as a roommate, at least not in a democratic society.

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 3 points 1 day ago

The idea that rich people are buying homes en masse and then keeping them empty makes no sense

Yeah, which is why Zillow's house flipping business was a disaster and they've backed out of doing that. Capitalism does not make sense, you're absolutely right, and unfortunately we're at the tail end of its collapse so we get to deal with the last gasps of a system that never made sense, was never sustainable, and prioritized short-term profits over long term financial stability.

None of that changes the fact that we don't live in a world where people need to be homeless because we can't house them. Nor do they need to be hungry because we can't feed them. And the only thing holding us back from feeding and housing everyone is mindsets like yours, where you're so stuck in the old way of doing things because that's all you've ever known that you can't even imagine a better world. The funny fucking thing about that is there used to be a time when nobody could imagine a world without kings and emperors, but guess what? Just like the power of kings, the economy is a fantasy. We made it up, it's a bunch of nonsense rules, and at any time we can just decide not to listen to that bullshit.

And before you start in with any "what abouts" or other nonsense, consider for a second that you're simping for a wholly imaginary system that has no basis in reality or a physical existence, and also that I do not care to listen to your brain react with shock and horror at the idea of things being different.

Goodbye, and good day.