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Whether big or small. We all have that one thing from Scifi we wished were real. I'd love to see a cool underground city with like a SkyDome or a space hotel for instance.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 27 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I'm confident that we could set up permanent human habitation on the Moon or on Mars with our current level of technology, and that's featured pretty prominently in sci-fi.

I don't know if it would actually provide a cost-effective return, but I do think that it'd be interesting to see happen in my lifetime.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Why think small?

The asteroids are just sitting there.

We could move all of Earth's heavy industries off planet.

[–] higgsboson@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Something tells me you've not worked much in said heavy industries. That is scifi hopium.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Just so I don't waste my time, why don't you list all the degrees you hold in chemistry, astrophysics, and mining engineering? Then show the research you did that shows why it would be impossible. Please cite as many references as you can.

[–] higgsboson@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

nah, ill save us both the effort and block you. bye

[–] Mitchie151@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

We could definitely move into industry in space, but a lot of technology still needs to be developed. I think we now have the capacity to launch factories in pieces into space, but asteroid mining remains a technical challenge due as we now know that many asteroids are not so compacted. Furthermore, refining the raw materials in space can't really be done right now, we probably could figure it out, but parts of the production chain do depend on gravity so we'd need to figure out artificial gravity on a rotating station or do some more direct kind of centrifugal refining. All hurdles we could probably cross. Then comes the question of what you drop back down from space and how you do it. Current heat shield technologies are generally poorly reusable, and even if we were we'd have to be flying the reentry devices back into space. Unless we create a cheap means to protect something from reentry that can be manufactured in space as a disposable, most goods would never be returned to earth. Unless we just refine giant cubes of rare metals and drop them into the ocean to be collected. I think most things made in space would be limited to serving those in space, or in lower gravity locations such as the moon or other asteroid bases. I would love to work on these challenges but there's very few companies working on these challenges outside of a couple of asteroid capture startups that seem to have no further vision.

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 4 points 2 days ago

Well, NASA was in the process of doing that already. It's still on the calendar, but who knows if Trump will let it continue or not.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

We could have been doing this since the 70s. Nothing sci-fi about it. The plans to do it are outlined in:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_High_Frontier:_Human_Colonies_in_Space

When humanity turned it's back on this project, we sealed our fate as a failed planet.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Vegas can make money from tourusm in a desert, a hotel on the moon (with a casino) will do just fine.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

According to this article, a tourist space flight is/will cost $450,000. That's just to break earth's atmosphere. Tack on the additional cost of several days of space flight to reach and return from the moon, plus breaking the Moon's gravity to return, plus the cost of building, maintaining, and staffing a moon base. Costs would be unbelievably prohibitive.

Vegas, meanwhile, is built on draining gambling-addicted grandmas' pension funds. You can't target that demo on the moon.

You haven't been to vegas lately. Grandma is not the target. Rich people who want to flaunt it is. Sounds like a match made in... heaven. Lol.
And since the gap between the haves and have nots is growing, it a perfect way for the haves to separate themsleves. Think back to the first commercial airliners. It was only for the rich. And it made a lot of money that way.