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There is a reason for declining child birth numbers... it has everything to do with more people knowing what they are really getting into.
And that everyone's too damn poor. Babysitter? Not on average wages! No one wants to give up all of their time and money for kids they might not be able to provide for.
There are people giving 100% of their paychecks for childcare and the spouse pays for everything else.
That is a failure of the US and birth rates won’t improve until that changes.
Nothing wrong with current birth rates, just the reasons for them.
I think you meant
Low birth rates deplete the work force in the long term. Creates issues where tax revenue is low and cost of social programs and healthcare are extremely high because there are so many people at retirement age and beyond. Birth rates at a minimum should be stagnant.
Its spelled "increase the negotiating power of labor"
Tax billionaires out if existence. Or re-organize society so we work somewhat efficiently and don't spend 90% of allblabor doing useless corpo bosswank.
See, this is only a problem gor evil exploitative oligarch shit heels. Benefits humans very much.
That assumes no immigration
As long as the US keeps voting for fascist morons, that assumption is correct and safe.
So the poor others should do the breeding while the wealthy limit their offspring to preserve more wealth for themselves?
yes, that is the only reason for or class of people who ever immigrate, you have figured out what no one else ever has or could.
Being poor has very little to with having children. The poor across the world have more children than the wealthy.
That doesn't change the motivations of millions of people in the world. You know, the kind of numbers that can produce a massive dip in data...
I don't need more reasons to not want children, I'm already decided, but this thread is sure reaffirming.
Well if there was public daycare to take the stress off of parents who couldn't deal with it then it wouldn't be as big of an issue.
Yeah we had to raise our siblings. Ain't raising another generation without being paid for it. It's why we work in education.
I don't really follow your train of thought. People would have been just as aware (if not more, due to the prevalence of multigenerational households) of this in the past as they are now, no?
In the past people didn't have access to a device with endless information about how rough it is the raise kids. Instead they had other local parents as a source, and those parents just wanted company in thier misery.
When I was a kid we used to just get thrown outside along with all the other kids and told not to come back until lunch time.
We used to get up to all sorts no one cared. At one point someone's dad took us all to the beach which was about an hour away, we all just got in this strangers car (never met him before) and went to the beach. I don't remember my parents been even remotely bothered by that when they found out.
There definitely was a "they are replaceable" attitude back then. Now try to imagine the generations before us, when 13 kids wasn't that abnormal. And that 13 only counted the ones that survived.