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Stay and fight for a better country, cowards.
Fuck that. If you are a MAGA targeted person in danger of imprisonment, abuse, or physical harm, and you have the means to get the fuck out...please get the fuck out.
If I was trans or a woman that doesn't want to have children, or had trans kids or a daughter, I'd be planning my exit.
Think of the safety of you and yours. You don't owe this country jack fucking shit, and don't let anyone guilt you out of what is best for yours.
Not even just trans, but anyone in the LGBTQIA+ community is under threat, or likely will be in the future. I don't blame them one bit for seeking refuge.
They mainly punch down and would never risk their own enjoyment. My wife and I are bi, but also dangerously close to being eligible to buy at The Villages (55+ only town). Plenty of those old MAGA hypocrites are down for a bi couples swap on a Saturday night and be at their megachurch on Sunday. LGB is all good with them, as long as they can't marry. "Please go balls deep on my husband, but don't you dare pledge vows to love and to hold another man, cause my imaginary friend in the sky says that's only meant to be between men and women."
You are O K for now*
Do not worry . They will come for you too.
Agreed.
Currently about to head to Germany as a stepping stone, with Canada as a backup, and the Netherlands as a stretch.
If they can get out, they must live with the knowledge of who they leave behind.
There is no moral stance to abandonment.
And no other country owes you shit either, we don't want you cruel Americans coming to our civilised countries
the ones trying to flee america, arnt the ones commiting fascism, and conservatives arnt the ones fleeing. canadas should stop thier snowbirds/ retirees from fleeing to the states, plus a significant a number of canadians emigrated to US and became part of the gop, or the right wing talking head so it goes both ways with this argument.(rafael cruz, a bunch of actors who are right wing,,,etc) right wingers come to AMERICA because australia and canada is normally too hostile for them to profit or to take significant amount of power without resistance, theres almost none in the USA for resistance against right wing takeover of governments.
Would you tell Jews or Germans fleeing in the 30's the same? Some of them will do more from the safety of Canada.
If you guys really think that the United States is genuinely comparable to Nazi Germany, then why the fuck are you doing nothing about it? Pretending that you can just migrate to another country, find work, live your life isn’t doing something. There are massive logistic hurdles to do that. Spending time on some social media app wistfully complaining doesn’t do much either. Is everyone’s anger here performative or real? Have you guys done anything other than gripe to forestall whatever is coming?
And what would you have us all do? To be honest (as a straight, white dude in America with no real minority status) im pissed as all hell. Ive watched what was initially a kinda shitty country turn to straight far right Authoritarian in a heartbeat, and I dont want any of this shit. But aside from a large scale revolution, which includes burning it all down and starting over from scratch, what the hell do we do. Our votes all count the same, so we can go out and vote but we wont always have numbers. Realistically all I feel empowered to do is bitch on social media UNTIL something big pops off, and then go participate in it.
We do have the numbers. Fascists cheat to win elections.
What have you done? Be the change you want to see.
lmao nazism pratically started in the USA, we had kkk before, and a nazi party that never was eradicated, and the nazis took some pointers form the USA on how to discriminate better.
What do you do to fight?
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It's easy to judge someone else's situation when you have the context of only your own life to compare their decisions to.
Because being born on one side of an arbitrary line on the dirt gives a person some kind of responsibility to risk death that is not shared by people born on the other side of said arbitrary line in the dirt?
This racist, planet-destroying, hate-filled, slave loving, military-worshipping, corporations always before people, nobody gets healthcare, veterans-die-homeless, constitution-isn’t-real, abusive shit stain of a Federal government was never worth saving.
There are tiny windows of maybe 10-20 years here or there over the last quarter millennia where it might seem almost functioning. Then it’s right back to being trash.
Burning it down and starting over? Now you’re talking.
I don’t blame anyone for leaving, as long as they come back and help clean up. Everyone everywhere will be affected by the collapse, anyway.
I did, I had been for years, and y'know what all I have to show for it is I'm more likely than ever to get killed in the streets for being trans. Fuck that I'm aging and can't be fighting forever; what good would another dead trans be. I've fucked off to Europe and once I stabilize here I'll help others do the same. The US can burn I didn't choose to be born there and I've never considered it my home
If the country had been worth fighting for in the first place, sure.
And what pray tell have you done there bucko.
You going to take up arms and protect them from the daily physical harassment and threats of violence on a daily basis?
No? Then maybe take your hot take and shove it.
Would you say the same thing to anyone leaving any country, ever? If not, why do it in this case?
If it's because you want someone else to do your dirty work for you, how are the refugees more cowardly than an armchair complainer like you?
The problem is our distance between each other. Organization is extremely difficult without setting off flags from surveillance.
Because of that you have cells of like...5 people trying to take aggressive action and that just doesn't work.
Not sure they are being literal. Fighting is also voting, supporting, being present.
tell that to the palestinians, ukrainians, iranians(ba'hai group), WAR torn african countries, and you see why its not probable.
No u.