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Im having beers at bar ordered wings and tipped $2 everything the bartender brings me.

Beer = $6

tip for beer $2

wings = $20ish

Tip for wings from bartender = $2

Total tips = $4

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Same order from waitress/er = $26

Tip = $5.20

Now I know this is micro example but extrapolate this over several drinks with food and the difference swings the other way. The question remains tho, am I tipping correctly?

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Correct they deserve more and they should negotiate it with their employer, not people who out eating food and smd drinking

[–] ApollosArrow@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree tipping should go away, but I’m wondering how those economics would work out? Most food places barely break even, I can’t see anyone being able to pay their servers more, so they would still pass that onto the customers.

Add to this that people aren’t really smart. I remember some time ago, some places testing out paying their waiters, plus showing how much food would be with tax included with no surprised. People preferred paying more with tipping, the big price sticker drove business away.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

Each item on the menu should be priced all in, including the tax.

The market will sort out the rest. If place can't get enough business while paying a living wage, they should go out of business so somebody else can come in who can make it work. Econ 101. Food and bars are 100% discretionary spend.

Whatever is happening now is no benefiting anyone besides owners and some some high earning waiters/bar tenders.

These clowns got brazen post COVID, so we are due for a push back.

Most food places barely break even,

A lot of them fail but the profitable ones are profitable. Owners just don't want you know that because.... you would ask why they don't pay better.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

If they “deserve” more they’d get more. I’m not sure why so many Americans think that wait staff should be paid more - it’s pretty much the most unqualified job in the world that pretty much anyone can do.

Pay is based on skill, qualifications/expertise, and return on investment. If anyone can do a job, it’s not going to pay well. If you start paying servers 2x minimum wage then all of a sudden there are hundreds/thousands of other jobs that need a 2x or more higher wage bump, and all of a sudden you’re paying base tech support $200k a year, and inflation is 30% a year, and people complaining that servers deserve more than $60/hour because $60 only buys you a small coffee thanks to the hyper inflation you caused by paying them 2x minimum wage.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

You are a free market maxi and this aint a free market. Chamber of commercie spends good money to lobby to suppress wages among other parasite.

This take is ignores this fact. why?

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

it’s pretty much the most unqualified job in the world that pretty much anyone can do.

How many years have you worked as a server that allowed you to make this assessment?

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You're not seriously going to argue that a job that requires no qualifications or skills and is regularly done by children is a difficult job, are you? I worked at mcdonalds back in the day during high school and uni, spent my fair share of time on the counter taking peoples orders. It's not hard, which is why like I said, it's a standard job for people with zero qualifications and who just need some money to keep them afloat.

Why do you think it's not one of the most basic jobs that anyone can do?

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's not a tipped job. Literally a job that forbids tips.

You are equating working fast food with the job a server performs.

I don't know why or how and do not see that changing, potentially ever. You do not display any signs of the prerequisite intellectual curiosity to change your uninformed opinion on the matter.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Working fast food counters is "serving". You're taking orders and delivering food.

I'm sorry, but being a server is not a hard job. It's not a job that requires any extra skills. It's a job that pretty much anyone can do if they want to, hence the low pay, high turnover, and it being a "backup job" for people like struggling actors, uni students, etc.

Also can you please answer my questions?

  1. You’re not seriously going to argue that a job that requires no qualifications or skills and is regularly done by children is a difficult job, are you?

  2. Why do you think it’s not one of the most basic jobs that anyone can do?