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Seen this on reddit and thought it was an interesting question that largely is not talked about.

It is largely an issue that gets sidelined and hidden because people don't want to talk about it or accept that it exists. Hopefully this gets some traction to break that marginalisation.

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The highest frequency I see of it is when issues are discarded when it is an issue with men. Be it homelessness,

I wouldn't discard the risks to men that are homeless, but I easily acknowledge that a homeless woman would likely be much more vulnerable.

suicide,

This one seems very equal to me. Its a usually a tragedy to lose someone of either gender. I'm not upset if a rapist or murderer commits suicide, however, irrespective of their gender.

job inequality,

I'm not following where this is a detriment to men. Statistically and my own anecdotal observation, women are much more negatively affected by job inequality.

domestic violence

I agree this one is frequently overlooked where men are the victims. Our society is evolving on this, but not fast enough.

But not for women. It seems men are worthless in a lot of people’s eyes because they aren’t women.

I can't say I see that reflected in society. What I do see are some calling out specific issues (at least one you've raised above) as recently negatively affecting men, while the same issue has been negatively affecting women far worse and for far longer and that it had been ignored. It comes off as lack of self reflection and disingenuous where men have allowed women to suffer for years (decades? centuries?), but as soon as men are experiencing it too, its a crisis now!

Or equally men are responsible for all the bad things in the world

Certainly not all, but certainly lots and lots of bad things. Only 13 of the 193 UN member nations have ever had a woman leader of the nation. source I don't see how anyone can say women are to blame for that, nor the policies those world leaders put into place.

because simply they are men and men are responsible.

Well, if men are in charge, then it would follow that they're responsible for the outcomes, yes? I'm willing to give a woman a chance to lead. She certainly can't be any worse that some of the worst men we've had as leaders.

For example a common issue is when men say they open up to a woman and that women used that to attack them. Then someone might say this is the patriarchy and toxic masculinity in action and men need to sort it out. Even though the man has done absolutely nothing wrong only the woman. Deflecting any responsibly from women doing something they shouldn’t have.

I don't know what women you have in your life, but I have never experience this first hand with any of the women in my life.

At least that is what I have seen mostly. But I’m more curious about others.

I almost never see this kind of thing, even online. I don't do reddit (anymore), facebook, or tiktok though, so maybe thats where its happening that I don't see it?