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[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 22 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

I would like to provide a counterexample. There are plenty of these people in the US intermountain west, but there are at least some cases where there is no one at fault. Next time you see one of these names without context (though we clearly have the context in this case), before judging, consider Nariaw:

I am a teacher, and one year I found that my roster included a student named "Nariaw". As a public school, we register your student based on what's on the birth certificate. I ask all of my students to pronounce their names for me when I first meet them, for the reason we see in so many of the replies here and with shit like "abcde". However, when this girl came to my class, she said her name was pronounced "Miriam". I spent a good twenty seconds looking at my roster, and had to ask her to spell it for me. I didn't ask any rude and impertinent questions at that point, so it wasn't until a few months later that I got the full story:

Her mother, an immigrant from Ethiopia, was still unfamiliar with Latin script when her daughter was born here in the US. So when she attempted to write out the name, which she wanted to transliterate as "Mariam", she ended up writing only half of the first M, and wrote the second one upside-down. Whoever did the data entry for the government records dutifully recorded the child's name as "Nariaw". Was the mother at fault for being expected to write a name which, while she knew how to represent it in Amharic, she was forced to write in a language in which she was illiterate?

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

That really qogA.

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[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 8 points 14 hours ago

Wow. Yeah, definitely good to be gracious in that situation!

Another is, some cultures, not too far from home - like Irish and Welsh - have names written in ways that look Traighdiegh to English, but are the correct/traditional way to spell it for that culture.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That's super frustrating. The hospital should have easily been able to get someone who had at least a basic grasp of a common language to help ensure they understood the forms and got them filled out correctly.

The fault is 100% with the hospital.

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I would argue that at least 15% of the blame lies with the racist expectation in the US that all names need be anglicized, when we have fucking Unicode. If someone whose second language is English can be expected to be able to pronounce "Rayleigh Monaghan McTavish", then the least that the anglophone people of the US could do is learn to pronounce things in a few other common languages. There is, quite simply, no excuse for the government of the united States, in which there is no official language (even though a traitor, invalidated by the insurrection clause of the 14th amendment, had some fuckwit draft a document trying to declare it without congressional approval), to mandate the use of a single language.