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[–] Stegget@lemmy.world 175 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

This is a man who refuses to make the same mistake twice.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Never make the same mistake twice.

Make a new mistake to learn from.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

This is a man who still views human relationships as procedural and logical and consistent.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 53 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah I generally don’t like it when people make Boomer-esque gender observations but this is definitely the result of a fight once and him trying to correct behavior to be more supportive/meet her where she needs him

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 64 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

There exist relationships where needs are not communicated through fights but through speech. I'm implying she might have just told him about her emotional needs instead of blowin up on him when they weren't met.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 22 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

You're totally right. That was a silly assumption on my part. I more meant tense moment or rather than a proper fight but it says something that i said fight!

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

Wife bad

Father I cannot swipe the book

Taxes

(Am I doing this right?)

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (4 children)

I'm going to make my own Boomer-esque gender observation here: people generally don't like having the fact that they conform to a stereotype about their sex pointed out. This woman would probably not be laughing if she thought she fit the stereotype, and especially not if she had ever made herself vulnerable by explicitly admitting that.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago

Oh man. Few things piss my wife off more than suggesting her irrational behavior could be due to PMS. She gets it really bad, and she's allowed to say that, but I'm not.

[–] xorollo@leminal.space 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

What is the stereotype? Men should be allowed to have a feelings stage about stuff that goes wrong.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The stereotype isn't that only women ever want sympathy, but rather that women generally want sympathy (rather than help) a lot more than men do, especially in situations where help appears to be fairly straightforward.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 11 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not saying this is unique to their actual gender/gender roles. I've seen it play out across the LGBT/gender spectrum with folks on all sides of it. The post is a bit sloppy but the core thing - about figuring out if someone needs validation vs. advice vs. just someone to vent to a bit - is very real and what's kind of funny is you can tell this guy had to have that conversation. Good on him for following through

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 8 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

This behavior isn't exclusive to one sex, but I think it is stereotypically feminine. I (a heterosexual man) usually hear about it when heterosexual men give each other advice, and it's presented as an irrational thing many women do which the men should learn to accommodate.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago

Sometimes the problem solving men jump to is annoying as shit. Like, I'm a man, and I want to complain about my cluster headaches. No I don't need you to be the 20th person to tell me I just need to stay hydrated. No I would not like to hear your methods for dealing with migraines that are probably not real migraines. What I get are not migraines. They're called suicide headaches for a reason.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes I agree with that. Are we talking about society or we talking about how I am talking about this subject? I feel like we keep vacillating between the two here

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The fact that the stereotype exists (and both the man and the woman presumably know that it does) makes me perceive the comment in the OP as mocking or patronizing. The man's intent could be to offend or perhaps to imply "I'm glad you don't actually expect treatment like this," but even that would offend many women. I don't understand why you or the woman in the OP think it was said in good faith, because it's something I would say myself only if I wanted to hurt the feelings of the woman I was speaking to so much that I was willing to sound sexist.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 hours ago

Fair concern for sure

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 1 points 10 hours ago

Are we sure she is laughing about this and not trying to “partner shame” him?