Hopefully this kind of post isn't too tired, but I figure it's my turn:
Finally decided to, after absolutely refusing to upgrade to 11, make the jump from Win10 to Linux! Been hopping around distros a bit and landed on EndeavourOS last night and I'm really enjoying it so far.
It's definitely tinkery and took me like 2 hours just to get my push to talk working in Discord (mostly due to my own lack of knowledge), but I love the level of control of everything you have (was on Pop!_OS before ~~🤮~~, edit: no hate, just wasn't for me!)
There's definitely never been a better time to switch and I'm very excited for when I inevitably brick my shit and come back here for help, so thanks in advance everyone! :)
Welcome to your GNU/Linux jounery.
Before you distro hop again, take your time exploring the os and terminal it will make installing the real arch linux easier.
EndeavourOS is the real Arch, with some additional repos and some sensible defaults.
What makes an Arch system an Arch system is the repos, the package manager and the fact that you installed it yourself.
Anyone giving you support will expect you to be able to answer a couple of questions about your system based on the fact you yourself configured it.
With EndeavourOS, even if you have the exact same repos, it still wouldn't be an Arch system.
And now get off my lawn!
I mostly agree with this. If you're asking for help on an Arch forum, I think it's fair to expect you know how your system is installed and configured. However, we know many use EndeavourOS (or Archinstall) to avoid having to configure their system. Forums provide free support; I think it's fair they get a say in what issues they don't want to deal with.
Archinstall: Exists Someone: ArCh iS WhEN yOu iNStaLl It yOUrsELf.
In other words, this statement is bullshit.
Or Archinstall is bullshit ;)
Imagine gate keeping Linux, the irony...
There is no irony.
Gatekeeping Linux distros has been a time-honored tradition since 1993.
Fuck that. The Linux gate is wide open! Anyone that wants to use Linux, come on in!
And for your own sake: use anything but Ubuntu and their buggy Snaps.
Try saying that on the Arch forums and see what they think about that statement.
Whatever. Why should anyone even go to their forum and ask their opinion on EndeavourOS (or other Arch-based distros) when their community is known for its toxicity?
It's not about opinion, it's about the fact you can't go to the Arch forums in case you are running into issues while running Endeavour. Whether that's an issue or not is up to the user.
You can, you just have to obfuscate the fact that you're running EndeavourOS and they'll be none the wiser
This is not a big problem, there are plenty of forums, and EndeavourOS itself has a great community.
I don't think they're saying it as a problem or trying to argue with you, just stating reality 😅
I know, I'm just saying.
I don't think many people on the Arch forums have that outlook on EndeavourOS. It is Arch with benefits
Arch users do not consider EOS as Arch but it absolutely is.
EndeavourOS uses the vanilla Arch kernels, the vanilla Arch repos, and the AUR. There are only a handful of packages in the EOS repos and the majority of them are theming or utils that are what you would use on Arch as well (like yay and paru). There are a few quality of life utils that are totally optional and most EOS users are probably not even aware of. Plus, I suppose, the EOS keyring and a couple of packages so that the distro identifies as EOS instead of Arch. Distro identification is the only thing that “overrrides” anything in the Arch repos.
I describe EOS as an opinionated Arch installer with sensible defaults. Once installed, it is just Arch.
It is trivial to revert EOS to vanilla Arch if you want to. I don’t think it even requires a reboot.
God what a toxic post
No hoping needed anymore once you landed on a Arch base!
I agree, but I must say that with the Archinstall script it's a breeze nowadays.