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[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Just being devil's advocate, but what's the point of a voting system when those in power can strip voting rights from a country when their votes are inconvenient.

I'm not supporting Orban here, because he's a Putin puppet that. However if your system can't handle a single country disagreeing without needing to cheat the system, you might want to question your system.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There should be checks and balances on everything, including determining when member states have gone rogue.

@Reddfugee42 @wewbull Any system without checks and balances has already gone rogue. Hungary is an example, and soon the US will be as well.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They have consistently moved away from our ideals to the benefit of our enemies while defrauding out coffers. We need mechanisms to halt this. I would prefer to see them removed completely, they have not made enough of an effort to remain a member.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree, but it appears to be the weakness of all multi-national organisations. The UN security council is paralyzed by the fact that the US and Russia have veto powers. The League of Nations was similarly paralyzed before it. NATO can't do anything unless the US is involved, and the EU is hamstring by one nation out of 27.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Why have a system with veto powers at all. One country should not be able to stop something.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's not cheating the system tho, it's part of the system. Blocking a country's veto power is not something they can just pull out of their ass, there's a process.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

And Hungary has earned it after 3 years of downright hostile positions to further Russia