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I will address some of the points you make.
After the Fukushima Daiichi accident, there has been an increasing preference for passive safety features in the nuclear power industry. To my understanding, it's not that all modern designs include this feature. Not only that, there are many ways to implement it, with different evaluations on their effectiveness.
For the US nuclear waste I could suggest the following article:
Nuclear Waste Is Piling Up. Does the U.S. Have a Plan? | Scientific American | March 2023
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Hi, I'm a nuclear engineer. I'm not looking to specifically argue against you, or counter your points. Just to provide some information, some of the things you have said I will confirm, some I will not
It's not clear to me which passive safety features, specifically, you're referring to. Safety is a very serious concern, and there are many different ways to make a safe reactor. If you are specifically referring to powered off passive cooling via carefully designed convection, then there are reactors in development with this particular safety system, but they tend to be SMRs, such as NuScale. However, not all reactor designs need this. For instance, a molten fluoride salt dissolved fuel reactor doesn't need circulation to prevent damage to the reactor in the event of an unpowered SCRAM, because if the salt gets too hot it will simply melt a plug in the salt that is actively being kept frozen, and allow the salt to drain into a series of tubes which have enough surface area to be passively cooled by the air in the containment building.
However, if by modern reactor you are referring to the current generation (Gen 3/3+) of reactors, they are characterized, in part, by the incorporation of these sorts of passive safety systems. The existence of these systems are one of the things that makes a Gen 3 reactor a Gen 3 reactor. However, because the nuclear industry in the United States essentially stopped in 1996 as the first Gen 3 reactors were coming online, the only Gen 3 or better reactors you will find in the US are the reactors 3 and 4 at Vogtle, Westinghouse AP1000. (The recent plant that came online at Watts Bar in 2016, was originally built in the 70s and just turned on for the first time recently, so it's Generation 2.)
The US certainly does not currently have a good plan to handle nuclear waste that is currently politically possible to implement. However, there many options, and the problem is not actually urgent. All of the transuranic waste produced by the entire 80 year history of US civilian nuclear power fits safely in dry casks on about 3 football fields. Nuclear power just doesn't make a lot of waste in an absolute sense because it is so much more energy dense than fossil fuels. This is a problem that we can take our time on to do right. The solution will probably involve some form of reprocessing, which will reduce the amount of waste by over 90%, and reduce the amount of time it takes for the waste to decay to background levels from over 10,000 years to just 300.
That being said, other than the plans to put it in Yucca Mountain, which has been deeply unpopular with Nevadans, there are also studies about freezing and immobilizing it in a salt mine, which is being done by Sandia National Lab, and Savannah River National Lab is investigating encasing waste in glass and other relatively chemically inert substances for disposition. Probably other projects as well, these are just the ones I've come across in my this far short career. I'm personally not a super fan of disposing of transuranic waste without reprocessing, due to the 10,000 year thing, but that is the method currently favored by the government due to security concerns regarding the potential of proliferation during reprocessing.
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It is true that there is only so much investment and so much manpower to go around. And perhaps a future in renewables only is possible. But I'm not confident in that at the moment due to the requirements of energy storage, but I will readily admit to not keeping up with this area of study. Perhaps large advances in energy storage are possible, but as far as I am aware the technology isn't there quite yet, and nuclear is possible with the technology we have now (provided we can muster the political will to get them built, but historically, frankly, that has been difficult).
Overall, I look at this largely the same way I look at solutions to "fixing traffic." The solution is trains, not a million whiz bang things that try to be new and cool and exciting. Not individualized self driving pods, that can dynamically connect and disconnect. Not a fleet of robo-taxis. Not a hyper loop. Just trains. Trains are the solution and they are unpopular, because they are boring, proven technology, there's nothing to sell, no value to add, no capitalist is going to want to do this because it's a big investment and shareholder value blah blah blah. They are an AM* solution not an FM** promise.
We have a functioning solution to energy that is politically difficult in nuclear reactors. And we have a half-solution that is easy to spin up in he private sector, but difficult to get us all of the way to carbon free in renewables. We are still waiting on the other half of the solution, and until then we're simply stuck on carbon power to meet the difference. At least, that's how I see it. But I only know what I know.
Thanks for the taking the time to read this.
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Thank you very much for taking the time to wright all the above. A lot has been clarified and you gave me input to further my quest. Btw do you have any recent book/documentary/etc to suggest on the topic for a non-scientist reader?
I don't know much about lay person explanations of nuclear engineering that are accurate and accessible. I can perhaps recommend the textbooks I used in my major? Nuclear engineering is a cousin to mechanical engineering, so if you have a background in differential equations then you have all of the tools necessary to start learning the material. The physics of nuclear interactions are mostly abstracted away into tables and data, (such as the Evaluated Nuclear Data File (ENDF) which you can browse online here) so you don't need to learn Nuclear Physics beyond the complete basics.
The introductory course at my old university, which kind of discusses general things rather than specifics, uses "Nuclear Engineering Fundamentals" by Masterson. From here if you're specifically interested in nuclear reactors, you can study Radiation Physics (Turner's "Atoms, Radiation, and Radiation Profection"), and then Reactor Physics (Lamarsh's "Introduction to Nuclear Engineering" and Lewis's "Fundamental of Nuclear Reactor Physics" and Duderstadt's "Nuclear Reactor Analysis"). From there, if you have a background in Heat Transfer and Thermodynamics (very important) you can learn how practical (rather than abstract) reactors work using Todreas's Nuclear Systems I. This covers mostly PWRs and BWRs. Undergrad doesn't talk much in curriculum about other reactor types (Fluoride, Lead Eutectic, Breeders, etc) that's mostly Graduate material.
Please note this isn't a complete major, there's a lot of material about radiation protection and shielding and health effects and so on.
The Materson book was easy to find, which is great. The introductory course was a great idea, so I'll try to find free online lectures and take it from there (I do have some background in math, so differential equations won't be an issue). I'm pretty sure I won't get everything, but I'll get a better grasp. Well, an introductory grasp, that is and I'm fine with it. Thanks again for your input.
The very second paragraph covers my point about waste. It's been a solved problem we just won't do it because leaving the waste on site is cheaper, and mining new fuel is cheaper. If we adjusted regulation to match actual cost this with l would change.
Fair but lame I should have said most not all. Guess you got me and all my arguments are negated.
Have you noticed that your arguments in opposition to nuclear power appear to be entirely rooted in bureaucratic failure?
And these are just pet peeves, but why are we measuring nuclear waste
something famous for being made of the heaviest materials possible
in tonnes? Wouldn't a much better metric for difficulty-of-storage be the volume? I know the reason is that it would be devastating to the argument against nuclear power when compared to the size of, say, a football/soccer pitch, but it's still deeply irritating. Also, there are grades of nuclear waste. There is much less TRU/HLW waste than there is Class A, which is predictably never ever mentioned in poorly researched anti-nuclear propaganda articles like this.
(I almost forgot to mention this one, but the majority of nuclear waste is produced by the Nuclear Stewardship Program not commercial nuclear power plants. I think we can all agree that nuclear weapons are awful, and if we want to stop the production of nuclear waste we'd have to get rid of them as well, an unlikely condition but one I'd be very happy to see realized)