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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And I wouldn't. Federation is supposed to make it easy to migrate. That was the whole point.

I guess we just disagree about the purpose of federation.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Federation is as easy to migrate an email, but moving from one email account to another isn't seamless. There is even more of a sunken cost as the database is public facing and can't be move across instances like an email archive can be.

And the purpose of federation isn't the ability to switch accounts freely, it isn't built into the system. The purpose is like email, you can access multiple servers controlled by different groups from your own server controlled by people you've vetted.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The purpose is like email, you can access multiple servers controlled by different groups from your own server controlled by people you’ve vetted.

But that's just it - when these different groups betray us we are enabled by federation to move to a different server. In this case, the admins failed the vetting process.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But who changes their email every year?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If your email service started doing shit you didn't like, such as forcing you to deal with spam email instead of blocking it, then you'd move to a different service.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But what if your email did shit like that every year? Or now you have to switch messaging with a group of friends and some don't want to jump to a certain new app?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Find an email service that doesn't do shit like that every year.

.world has always been bad, this isn't an example of "every single server is bad and they'll all do bad things every year and so you should just accept that the service will always be bad and always get worse." There are actually good servers. They exist.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The mod in question is a major Star Trek nerd and there was a massive falling out recently with the user base of startrek.website and the mods/admins, which is why a lot of them moved to .world in the first place.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

This is why it's important to actually know who the admins are and what their goals are, rather than just picking instances based on vibes. Being a Star Trek nerd isn't actually a good reason to pick a Star Trek instance.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Outside of .ml and beehaw, what admins are that active and communicative with users in general? Who is publishing policy on how they are running their instance and showing how they are following through on it?

Most Lemmy instances are small hobbies run by vibes dictoral control of a single person and people change over time. Unless you build your own instance, admin relations will always be something that you have to deal with.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Outside of .ml and beehaw, what admins are that active and communicative with users in general?

Maybe that's a problem?

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

But you've consistently stated that the first step if an admin tries to build that sort of thing and does something that you disagree with is to leave. Don't try to talk with the admins to help build a stable place, just leave.

I don't see that as a good first step.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 20 hours ago

If the admins first step isn't to talk to the community, then yeah, it's time to leave. They unilaterally made this decision and then forced it on to everyone. That's a bad sign!