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They have WFH and make 6 figures per year. Explain to me why it's surprising the company converted it to WFH. You take the perks with the disadvantages they entail, unless, we're supposed to be angry with tiktok and don't really care for the workers ๐ค
If it sounds bad and it's not illegal, the problem isn't tik tok!
Who cares about the legality?
If somebody's house burnt down, you give them whatever they need. Any company not giving somebody in that situation paid time off is a shitty company. I know for sure my boss would give me whatever I needed and ask if he personally could help in any way.
Employees are humans first and foremost and need to be treated with respect and compassion, not slaves to be exploited and punished.
I've never seen a big company like bytedance give PTO for a death in the family, much less for someone's house burning down.
Any of those companies big enough middle management can hide behind "company policy" and then off their hearts and brains.
It's not even about humanity, it's also the right thing to do from a business perspective: You want your workers to be productive again ASAP, that's worth not just continuing to pay them, but also focussing the collective buzz-bee energy of middle management on finding out what everyone needs and finding ways of providing it so they can actually do work instead of dealing with personal shit. Suddenly have 1000 homeless employees? Get them hotel rooms, find them homes, if need be build apartments. Have the legal department pro-bono the management of their insurance claims. Whatever is necessary, the next useless presentation and the next grand lawsuit you planned can wait. Don't paint your nails while your feet are on fire.
A public company will 99,9% of the time be shit, that's why you need strong worker protection enshrined in legislation. The fact that all the downvoters didn't get the subtext is one of the reasons you got to this situation in the first place. The average literacy in the US is godawful and the political process only works in easily digestible soundbites, so complex themes like worker protection get relegated to the back seat in favour of who uses which bathroom.
Holy shit take the L.
No one here disagrees with that, or is unaware of the "sUbTeXt".
That's just not how subtext works. You don't get to say one thing, then claim you meant something entirely different (the reasonable take) and call it subtext.
We can't take the L they have to be right because... Reasons
God the trolls are out in force today. What did a new round of funding come in from Russia?
Ah, mericans...
You're not doing your home country any favors. Your inability to understand the situation is astounding really. Where are you from that made you so damn smart?
Trollsylvania
Blocktown
!merica
If that was a typo for America, and you are trying to say you're American, you've got at least one thing in a prior comment that's a dead giveaway that you are not.
Wat? I made one comment replying to one word in which a letter was replaced with an exclamation point. I wanted to be sure I didn't misunderstand anything before I said too much. Where did I claim to be smarter than anyone, and what evidence did I make to the contrary?
Again... Wat?
I am friends with nobody here, even if someone was sympathetic.
I am, in fact, a programmer (old enough to have not learned any language as a child) and am well-aware that "!" means not in many languages. I also have enough self-awareness to realize that not everyone would make that connection, and figured someone may have hit the symbol button on their phone keyboard instead of shift and hit "!" instead of "A". Somehow that seemed more plausible than "assume everyone knows programming syntax, even in a place like Lemmy, and choose to use that"
Fun fact: my job has made me dabble in a system so old and archaic, it uses "'" (single-quote, to save you a squint) as the "not" operator. "!" is used for newline.
Your submission in "TikTok tells LA staff impacted by wildfires to use personal/sick hours if they can't work from home" was removed for Rule 3.
The last sentence violated rule 3.
Quit this bullshit. A lot of tech workers working remotely are contractors, precarious workers. Content moderators, data labelers, and the likes are not paid 6 figures and they are not privileged. Most of the workforce of these companies are not white, rich dudebros. Stuff like this adds insult to injury.
Is it illegal though? Perhaps start there, with worker protection law. Everyone is happy to help the dudebros exploit the working class as long as line goes up.
Edit: Lol, 1s, immediate downvote. If only you were as assiduously fighting the exploitation...
I'm a union organizer in tech. My downvote was the 8th, not the 1st. I was busy doing a call with striking riders in Greece. Keep up the good work, scab.
I'm genuinely unsure they're a scab, I think they're saying that we cannot expect these parasitic companies to have the workers best interests at heart, and as such strong workers rights should be enshrined in law and enforced.
I could be misunderstanding them though of course.
Pitting different types of workers against each other automatically promotes you to a scab. Purism and sectarianism are much more harmful to labor organizing than union busting.
Good on you, give them hell and good luck with the cheeto in chief. If you need to run, you'll always have a home this side of the ocean.
Regarding the "different types of workers", a CEO is still a worker. Smart people know the difference between those that take advantage of legislation vs those who suffer from it. This type of absolute dogmatic purism is what got your laws to be shit in the first place.
Shit like this is why they called you a scab. Ceos aren't workers, they're part of the capital class. Thinking of ceos as workers shows me you haven't thought through your positions past a surface level.
You mean like ceos and the rest of the capital class? And I'm guessing you consider yourself one of the "smart ones" LOL
No, capital owning politicians is what made our laws to be this shit.
Bruh, I've worked for small companies most of my adult life. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. Even ceos of the small companies I've worked for are well above the standard worker in pay and monetary class.
The only place you have a point is on very small businesses that are basically not even incorporated (like my business before it went under). Even the "mom and pop" family taco joint I worked for as a young adult had that problem.
Edit:
Oh sorry, I didn't realize I was speaking with a low rent troll. Carry on.
Your submission in "TikTok tells LA staff impacted by wildfires to use personal/sick hours if they can't work from home" was removed for Rule 3.
"it's not the CEOs fault they're fuckin' ghouls, bruv" - this guy
Now start pulling the rope, who gives mandate to the CEO? Who controls the mandate? Do they also influence legislation?
Believing the CEOs are the problem and not just another abstraction layer so the real responsibility doesn't fall squarely on the neo nobility is the mark of the failure of the left. It's like herding sheep and hearing the bleating hatred for the Shepherd dog.
CEOs are not workers, they are part-owners in typical compensation schemes. Give me large unearned blocks of stock or a percentage of the net revenue, that would make me not a worker.
I think that exactly what they are saying, but it misses the whole point. Yes, either protections would be great to prevent against this and no it's not illegal, but it's heinous and TikTok should be lambasted. The poster is essentially victim blaming because of their assumed jobs, pay, and because their misfortune is not illegal. It's just a really bad take, even if it's not technically wrong.
Precisely this.