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Homo sapiens are the last remaining species of hominina. Our closest remaining relatives, the Pan (chimpanzees and bonobos) diverged at least 6.5 million years ago. Though there is some evidence early hominina may have interbred with pan after the divergence as recently as 4 mya.
This is more recent than dogs and foxes by a long way, and about the same as donkeys and horses. That, plus chromosomal analysis and some other research suggests it could be possible for a human and chimp or bonobo to interbreed, though likely not create fertile offspring. However, there has never been a confirmed case of this occurring, despite multiple claims.
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Because of that one caveman, we are all shamed forever.
Weβre talking way earlier than cavemen. The last interbreeding between our ancestors and chimpsβ ancestors happened (using the most recent estimate I could find) a million years before the least recent evidence of the use of any stone tools. This is not a human that would be recognisable at all as a human.
Welp, now I am curious. There are like 10 billion of us, this can't not happen.
Excellent answer!
For the sake of completeness:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbreeding_between_archaic_and_modern_humans
Pretty sure that we can't breed with chimps and generate a fertile offspring due the mismatch on the number of chromosomes.
Doesn't HIV come from chimps too? Not knowing too much about it, I would imagine that presents some challenges.
Yeah fertile offspring is almost entirely off the table here from what I can see.
So after reading the wiki, I believe the most likely successful attempt will be to mate a human with downe syndrome, with a chimpanzee. Let's get on this. I wanna see some atrocities of nature.
Umm, I don't think that's how it works.
The wiki says it's hard with chimps because we have one less chromosome than chimps. Down syndrome: "all my homes got extra chromies". They have an extra chromosome. Ergo: down syndrome + chimp = hybrid chimpmanzee.
Yeah, I don't think that's how chromosomes work
Thats how down syndrome works. Look it up yourself, smart guy. People with down syndrome have 47 chromosomes instead of 46. Chimps have 48, so down syndrome people are one closer, by mutation. That means just one more mutation and we're all set.
Now start work on making a monkeyboy.
An odd pair of chromosomes makes it harder than being off by a pair. Mules are unbreedable due to their odd number of chromosomes.
We have successfully bred with species further apart, including an alpaca and a llama.
So yes all the science points to it being possible with humans, but ethically we can't possibly do that.
And it is not one more mutation to add an extra chromosome. It's a loooot more.
Are you really this fucking thick? There's more to genetic compatibility than chromosome count. Otherwise we'd be seeing humanβReeves's muntjac hybrids. Or chimp-gorilla.
Are you seriously this fucking thick? You think I've been serious? Lol
Oh, so you were just being a dick for the sake of being a dick? That's worse bro.
How is it being a dick? Because you got mad?
Because it compares people with down syndrome to chimpanzees, and because it took a good faith serious discussion and made a mockery of it.
Bro, humans are compared to chimpanzees. DNA wise were almost a banana as well. You're getting butthurt on anothers behalf because of the fact that they have an extra chromosome? That's literally what down syndrome is.
Okay, let's make this simple enough for you. Pictures, everybody. Pictures for the man with the mind of a sloth. Exhibit A. Exhibit B.
Ah yes. And the man monkey in the middle! I bet that's what Bigfoot is.