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[–] WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

I wish I knew someone who was disappointed. The only two people in my life that aren't Trumpers are my daughter and her fiance. Everyone else thinks that gas will get back to $1/gallon and food prices will return to pre Covid levels on Jan 21.

[–] RinseDrizzle@midwest.social 21 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Sheeeesh, sorry to hear you're living deep in the red. Proud of my state for being a spot of blue in a sea of red, but hot damn that election map was bleak.

It's so wild how absolutely bonkers the political climate has become just in my lifetime. There was some real optimism when I got to vote for Obama as an 18 year old. Would've never seen all this coming...

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

There was some real optimism when I got to vote for Obama as an 18 year old. Would’ve never seen all this coming…

Unfortunately, all this is pretty much a backlash to that event.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yup. We elected the black guy (twice), and people lost their fucking minds.

Dude was a moderate, center-right, President, but none of that mattered. They spent 8 years fantasizing about lynching him.

And now this is our retribution.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Here's an alternate theory:

Back then both parties tended to use the "slimy posh salesman" kind of deceit (half lies, misleading statements, promises left unfulfilled with twisted excuses given for it) and what happened was that Republicans, almost against their will (Trump was an outsider) stumbled upon the "strongman saying what people want to hear using straight talking language" technique of deceit.

It was a massive success because people had been fed the same kind of posh-saleman deceit (with pretty much all the media having gone along with it and turning into de facto propaganda outlets) for decades, found the new sort of discourse refreshing and comparatively trustworthy (even though it was still bullshit, just delivered differently, because it did not sound at all like the usual bullshit it seemed trustworthier to many and all the media that had chosen sides and gone along unquestionigly with the old style of deceit wasn't trusted anymore so all their denouncing of the "other side's lies" was ignored)

Whilst the Republicans did adjust to that unexpected success quickly, the Democrats did not and just kept using with their usual deceit techniques spread via the media-outlets to which lots of the electorate had built a resistance to, and acting to favour the usual people when in government.

So here we are today with a lying populist getting power for a second time in the American Two-Party system.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

The thing is we had Obama and dem control of the legislature and we still didn’t get universal healthcare, or even basic shit like minimum wage indexed to inflation. It’s no wonder low-information voters think democrats suck at “the economy”.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I still think musk had something to do with it and not in a strictly legal way. Would explain how he has managed to stay close to the orange for so long unchecked.

[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I think it's revealing that apparently as long as gas and eggs are okay, the country falling completely apart is secondary (to the voting majority).

[–] WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Gas is the big one. I don't hear as much complaining about food where I am.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The whole thing is going to look fucking stupid once EVs take off. Although I bet Trump will do everything to slow that once elected (even with Musk in his ear).

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You know that they can just stop EVs from taking off, right? We elected an autocrat.

They can also stop infrastructure for it from being built, and perhaps even tear down existing infrastructure. Well, aside from the ones Tesla owns of course. At least until he and Elon have their falling out

[–] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

My theory is that they will institute a tax on old products so that buying new items is the same or cheaper than buying new.

[–] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 11 points 5 days ago (2 children)

What will they think when those things don't happen? Some conspiracy shit?

[–] WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Cognitive dissonance - They'll find some way to blame it on Biden/Harris/Newsom/Pelosi.

[–] AJ1@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)
[–] WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Biden will be taking the blame for all the problems over the next couple of years.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And Trump will take credit for the good policies that Biden implemented, if he manages to not fuck it up.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Republican president fucks everything up, democrat gets elected to fix it, fixes it but in doing so gets nothing they promised acomplished, voters blame democrats and swing right. Rinse and repeat.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

It’s those brown people in Iran! We better start another 20 year invasion!

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Time to start beating your wife, she’s actively asking for it. If she’s your ex make sure to remind her that project 2025 wants to make her existence illegal.