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Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage Foundation and architect of Trump’s Project 2025, employs intense fire-related rhetoric in his upcoming book, Dawn’s Early Light: Taking Back Washington to Save America, advocating for a “controlled burn” of institutions he deems corrupt or antithetical to conservative goals.

Roberts calls for dismantling entities like the FBI, Ivy League schools, and the New York Times, framing it as necessary to “renew” America.

His incendiary language has sparked controversy, with critics alarmed by the violent imagery and its implications for Trump’s second term.

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[–] SasquatchCosmonaut@lemmy.world 81 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Why the fuck would you get rid of boy scouts it's literally a patriotic paramilitary (kinda) organization with a checkered past on sexual abuse that should be a Republican wet dream lol

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They renamed themselves the Scouts and let in girls. Maybe that's why? These people are insane and evil, so honestly it doesn't matter why.

[–] Custodian1623@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

which was done to keep the organization afloat revenue wise and weirdos on the internet tried to call it woke in a bizarre case of friendly fire

[–] Lennny@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Also because scouting exists in many other cultures and most of them are mixed. Intercamp fucking slaps

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 weeks ago

Whole it does teach survival skills and can teach about shooting, most of the skills are just to prepare you for life. Importantly though, it builds a community focused on helping people and doing good. It's a children's version of a mutual aid group almost. This is a bad thing for children to learn in their opinion probably.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 24 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Paramilitary is stretching it a bit, stuff like shooting guns is optional and with guidelines from the sane past. It plays an anemic role in the BSA, tbh.

The vast majority of boy scouts is learning constructive things like how to cook, how to perform first aid on someone who got injured in a car accident or hike, how to use a map and compass if you get lost, and basic financial planning so you aren't an idiot with money.

In short, it prepares you for life and situations where someone might freeze up if they don't know what to do in an emergency. It also makes people fluent with the outdoors and feel comfortable spending time outside of the big city.

Tldr; it's a group that prevents incel or gang behavior and helps people make friends.

[–] SasquatchCosmonaut@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

When I said paramilitary I was really just talking about the ranks and leadership structure.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

My Girl Scout group was basically selling cookies and building dumbass popsicle birdhouses and wifecraft. I noped out in a few months even at that age lmao. No camping SMH.

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

Some parts of the military try to use the scouts as a vector for reaching potential recruits. definitely had a few army recruiters come by my troop. Also the rank structure, uniforms, focus on leadership, etc certainly looks a bit military-ish.

And fwiw, I don't think the scouts does much to address incel behavior. Maybe it helps with gangs, idk.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 weeks ago

They’ve done a lot to prevent child abuse recently. That upsets republicans.

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

He probably wants to replace it with a Hitler Youth style of program.

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago

I'm pretty sure they recently changed to allow LGBT members along with toying around with integrating both boys and girls into troops since the girl scouts really only exists to sell cookies. I've seen lots of garbage on social media about how "woke" the Boy Scouts are now so they're gunning for the organization.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is the national organization still anti-atheist? (NOT local chapters that oh-so-generously look the other way)

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I think the mormon church sold them, so maybe?

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Probably because the boy scouts no longer fits their narrative of "women bad".

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Bruh...paramilitary? Get fuckin real.

[–] SasquatchCosmonaut@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Paramilitary because of the rank and leadership structure. I'm not saying they're doing combat training lmao

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's still stupid. Just because an organization has ranks or leaders doesn't mean it's paramilitary. Oh no they have organization and structure that reflects how much work they've done! It's not the same at all. Paramilitary is possibly the dumbest take on scouts I've ever heard. There are plenty of things to criticize without making up stupid fear mongering bullshit.

[–] SasquatchCosmonaut@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

adjective Of, relating to, or being a group of civilians organized in a military fashion, especially to operate in place of or assist regular army troops.

Literally the first Google result lol

Also said (kinda) paramilitary so settle down there guy lol

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And literally doesn't resemble scouts at all. Nothing to settle down. I just think this is a really really stupid comparison.

[–] SasquatchCosmonaut@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They have ranks that resemble military ranks (1st class, 2nd class ~ 1st lieutenant, 2nd lieutenant) etc and have a hierarchical leadership structure.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That isn't an expressly military structure though. For fucks sake, almost every company in the world is hierarchical. The same goes for class, it's just classification, not military.

[–] SasquatchCosmonaut@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Army lets you come in at a higher rank if you have your Eagle rank.

https://recruiting.army.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2141843/some-new-soldiers-can-now-qualify-for-higher-rank-more-pay/

I dunno man sounds a little militaryish to me...

Also were you ever in the scouts?

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And you can get into better job positions with it too. It's still nothing close to paramilitary. And for whatever it matters, yes, I was in scouts from cubs through my Eagle. I'm very familiar with the organization and with the military.

[–] SasquatchCosmonaut@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was also in scouts from cubs through Eagle and I still think it fits the definition of (kinda) paramilitary lol.

We clearly just have different definitions of that word and therefore I'm just going to have to agree to disagree with you.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I guess so, and that's fine. It's the internet, we all have opinions and they all suck lol.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When I lived in Alabama as a kid, they taught us to shoot rifles.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago

Learning to properly shoot a rifle as a group isn't the same as a paramilitary at all. If that's all it took then every gun safety course in the world is a part of a secret cabal intent on having a global paramilitary. Which is stupid as fuck leap. The fact that your troop went shooting in Alabama says more about being in fucking Alabama than it does being a scout.