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I’ve a lot of discourse online about how the Democratic Party held back Bernie Sanders from becoming president in 2016 & 2020 during the primaries. But my question to that is, are primaries not decided by the voters to get the most delegates? If the people didn’t vote for him, how is that the Dems’ fault?

A counter I see for that is that Dems endorsed his primary opponent to sway the vote. I dont really think that would have much impact on committed voters. Trump got almost no help in the primaries in 2016 and still won.

Is this narrative true and I’m just oblivious?

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[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world -5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I understand all of that. But why didn’t people vote for Bernie in 2016 & 2020?

[–] stinerman@midwest.social 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm beginning to think you might be trolling based on your responses. In case I'm wrong...

The simple answer to your question was that people who voted in the Democratic Party primary didn't want him to be their nominee. Of course you're asking why.

In 2020, Sanders had the lead and the party leaders decided "guys, we can't run a Socialist Jew against Donald Trump, so we need to pick a candidate and go with him." A ton of people vying for the nomination dropped out and endorsed Biden. Their supporters voted according to the endorsements and we ended up getting Joe Biden.

ETA: To be clear the Democratic Party is a private organization and they can do whatever they want. It's completely within their rights to say "we need to stop Bernie Sanders" and put in action a plan to do just that.

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

To be clear the Democratic Party is a private organization and they can do whatever they want. It's completely within their rights to say "we need to stop Bernie Sanders" and put in action a plan to do just that.

Legally speaking, yes. Ethically, fuck no. When they admitted Bernie into the party so he could run in their primary, they created a huge chain of events that involved thousands of people and millions of dollars. It’s wrong for them to allow such a charade to go on if they have no intention of honoring their own voters.

[–] stinerman@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, ethically it's a very bad look. But I'm not a registered Democrat (or anything else) so I don't have a say in how they run their organization.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

What kind of answer are you looking for? You've got a lot of responses, but then you just ask the same question over again, as if none of these answers are good enough.

Starting to think you might be a sealion...🤔