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Personally, I don't* but I was curious what others think.

^*^some sandwiches excluded like a Cubano or chicken parm; those do require cooking.

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[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 66 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I don't think it's cooking unless you are applying heat to cause a chemical reaction. So, making a grilled cheese sandwich counts as cooking, but a BP&J does not.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Making ceviche or sushi officially not cooking confirmed - how dare those posers call themselves sushi chefs.

[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 46 points 2 months ago (2 children)

gotta cook the rice for sushi. checkmate.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Sashimi: do I not even exist, bro?

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Slap a whole fish down in front of you.

You: "Not cooked"

slice fillet of fish off and present it.

You: "Not cooked"

slice fillet into small bite size pieces and squirt some neon green horseradish next to it

You: "Dis is cooked!"

?

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Yea, it looks fucking delicious. Thank you for cooking me a fine meal!

[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

Ha, you actually believe in Sashimi? Crazy.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

What if I want my raw spam musubi extra crunchy?

[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Then you should opt the spam out for soused harring.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think of a chef as a "preparer of food" not necessarily "food cooker"

So sushi chef is still accurate to their opinion, disclaimer I agree with them so I could always be rationalizing it.

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

chef is french for chief. they are the head of the kitchen.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

They still have to cook the rice.

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Some of the constituent ingredients have to be cooked, but ceviches and sushi rolls aren't cooked any more than salads or burritos. They're assembled or prepared.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're ignoring the chemical process in ceviche.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yea, ceviche is cooked with acid rather than heat - you can also cook some foods with salt!

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You could cook using an exothermic reaction between ingredients, but I don't think that's what's happening when making ceviche, so a ceviche is not cooked.

Cc @SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The proteins are being chemically denatured.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ceviche is said to be "cooked" with acid, even if that's not the most accurate term. And most forms of sushi are made with cooked rice, at minimum, and not uncommonly with other cooked ingredients. So those things kind of muddy the waters for your point. But a clearer example may be something like beef tartare, a garden salad with a vinegarette, or sashimi. Those things are "prepared", not cooked, because no cooking is involved in their making. Cooking is specifically the preparation of food utilizing heat. Chefs prepare plenty of dishes that do not involve the act of cooking.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The acid from the lime is doing the cooking in ceviche.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago

I agree - and it specifically isn't doing so through an application of heat.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 2 points 2 months ago

Just because it's preparing food and not cooking doesn't mean that it is lesser.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 2 points 2 months ago

Lol whoops. I'm leaving it.

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Butter, peanutbutter and jelly?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Butter, Peanut butter, and Just a little more peanut butter

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 2 points 2 months ago

You can cook with a microwave, but if you're just reheating something that's not cooking.