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Trump isn’t an icon of positive masculinity. He also did very little for young men during his four years as president

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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 29 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Look at 99% of media before 2001 AD. White male hero. Star Trek TOS was a giant ground breaker showing Uhura, but all the real critical leaders were males. Think on this; the James Bond movie Thunderball has a scene that's pretty much rape; they were selling little kids' toys based on that movie. There's a John Wayne movie where Wayne throws someone else's kid into a river to teach the boy how to get over his fear of water.

This is what these young men and their fathers consume. And Trump plays to that. He's a macho hero who plays by his own rules and doesn't take crap from anyone.

Muhammed Ali did more in real life than Clint Eastwood ever did in all his movies put together; guess which one these folks admire?

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No offense, but I'd safely bet maybe 0.1% of current generation young men have watched any of those movies. This article is primarily talking about younger Gen Z folks (18-30), so people born 1994-2006. These males specifically consume idiot social media personalities vs old school macho man movies from the 50s and 60s.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

^ This. I think even older people have scaled back on watching such fare.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Even some of us before then. Was never into movies vs longer form works

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (4 children)

This is what these young men and their fathers consume. And Trump plays to that. He’s a macho hero who plays by his own rules and doesn’t take crap from anyone.

How the fuck do they think Trump is macho?

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Because he has money, he can say whatever the fuck he wants and no woman can boss him. Kind of like Elon. If you have a broken brain, that is "macho".

[–] dirthawker0@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because all his earlier life was spent paying pretty women (and girls) to hang around pretending to be attracted to him (when it was actually money, food, and/ot entertainment).

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

and/ot entertainment

I believe the more precise term is cocaine.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Well, he is in the WWE Hall of Fame...

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because Andrew Tate, Ben Shapiro, and Jordan Peterson tell them Trump is macho and the young men don’t know any better. They think these morons are authority figures

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Which I also don't get. Those guys don't seem macho or cool either.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm a zoomed so I can confirm you completely failed to bring up any media relevant to Gen Z, and Star Trek TOS and Ali are closer than Clint Eastwood, John Wayne, and Bond.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

Look at 99% of media before 2001 AD.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And Trump plays to that. He’s a macho hero who plays by his own rules and doesn’t take crap from anyone.

Except he's not. He's a lard-assed con artist, appearance-obsessed but ridiculous: fake hair, fake tan, trying to exaggerate his height and hide his obesity, a bully, a coward, a liar, and anyone who's seen the video of him grovelling in Putin's presence wouldn't say he doesn't take crap from anyone. He's a servile, fawning toady who would have been nothing without his daddy's money. If this society were a meritocracy, he'd be pounding farts out of shirttails in a steam laundry in New Jersey, if he could be employed at all.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

You know it and I know it, now try to explain it to them.