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[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The military is the only form of upward mobility for large swaths of the population, they are chewed up and spit out by the machine, after being indoctrinated in nationalist propaganda from the time they were able to form memories. Veterans are members of the Prolitariat and should be educated about the system that abused them, not mocked and rediculed for being a victim of it. Yes America has committed mass atrocities, but almost every service member who signed up was completely unaware of that at the time of their enlistment.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s not about atrocities at all. It’s a question of whether kids understand that they are signing up for a job that involves using explosives to kill people. It’s kinda hard ignore that aspect of what the military is, no matter how sheltered or propagandized one is. As the propaganda has grown, so has the ability of literally any child to google “what do militaries do?”

Being aware of the atrocities might require someone to have been paying attention at some point in school, but knowing that you’re gonna face bombs and killing in the military, that takes even less awareness.

[–] Ergo42@discuss.online 1 points 4 months ago

The human brain is really good at keeping two conflicting ideals "harmonized". I don't think it's much of a stretch to fall to the romanization of the military while also recognizing the killing part of it.

It's easy to fall to propaganda. Is it the recipients fault? Is it the sender of propagandas fault?

I would argue both to some degree, but mostly I will blame the sender because they are generally older and better at rational thinking when compared to younger people. (I'm grossly generalizing here. I know younger people who can think more critically than some older generations).

Summary: by the time they realize they don't want to be part of it, it's too late and they have to serve their time.