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[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 112 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I archived this cancerous bloated paywalled shit show of a website just on principle

https://archive.md/5qN2M

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 46 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Why is so much of the internet terrible now fml

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 57 points 4 months ago

Cory Doctorow can explain it to you. He coined a term for it which has now become widespread, "enshittification." And it's all about money.

https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Because no one wants to pay for anything.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Which is partly because people don't have as much money as they used to.

[–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago

Which is partially felt more because and is exacerbated by the fact that companies and their shareholders feel entitled to capture every drop of money you have, to the point that buying a pizza comes with the option to spread the cost over four months just in case there’s 10$ from a person that they could only capture by offering the option.

I live half a planet away from America and even I’ve seen it. Disgusting.

Remember when we looked at phone apps that cost more than .99 and thought the developers were greedy?

[–] small44@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Imagine how costy it is to pay for individual journalists subscriptions monthly

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip -4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Why would anyone pay for viewing a website?

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why would anyone pay for viewing a website?

Or to put it another way,

Why would anyone pay for using a service that costs money to provide?

[–] chalupapocalypse@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

We were spoiled when the web started, but now that ad revenue has dried up, someone has to pay for hosting and content creators to eat.

I'm not a fan of giving every website $5 a month, there has to be a better way.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Advertisers did it to themselves.

Pop ups, pop unders, loud autoplay, focus stealing, taking up ungodly amounts of screen real estate, etc, etc.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think the Brits have it right with BBC. It’s not perfect but everyone pays a tiny bit and it funds news and dedicated programming

What we really need is to reinstate the Fairness Doctorine and stare straight at fox

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

That's what NPR and PBS were supposed to be, but they're so perpetually underfunded that they're almost commercial stations. edit: with corporate sponsors and viewer funding pledge drives.

Some public stations have been taken over by right wing orgs that came in with massive funding.

Gift link to SF Chronicle article
archived version

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is where we got MSG round brown Ross and his happy little mountains after he stoped yelling, never stopped being an American veteran

How you gonna attack happy little mountain brushes?

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Bob Ross' show ended 30 years ago, and PBS and NPR funding has declined even more as a proportion of operating costs since then.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Seems like an issue one might fix as a campaign bullet point, no?

Vote for me and we’ll keep Bob and Fred and educational stuff free to every tv. Crom knows the only way I became a hitchhiker instead of a missionary was shows on PBS like Red Dwarf, no network is gonna air that at 0300

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Why would anyone provide content for free? Everyone needs to be paid for their work.

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It doesn't necessarily have to be 'work', people used to make websites out of passion. Now everyone wants to monetize everything.

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

It is always work even if it’s a passion project.

People used to make shitty websites with good content but now they need to make good, professional looking websites for people to even look at them to decide on the whether the content was good.

This takes time and if you’re doing it for free then you’re choosing to do extra work on top of your day job.

As others have said, there are costs to hosting a website other than the time that you’re expecting people to give for free.

[–] Brickardo@feddit.nl 2 points 4 months ago

I feel like this is a dialectic that has been endorsed by the ruling class when talking about menial jobs. 'Now nobody wants to work' and whatnot

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

This is one of the reasons I left Reddit. Sure everyone needs to be paid for their work but it gets a little more suspect when I donate my time and attention, and it is monetized, and I still have to deal with too many ads

And someone who does NOT deserve to be paid is the “journalist” who writes those articles “LoveBunny68 on social media site Reddit said ….”. I guess I hope that is some sort of automation because no one deserves to be paid for that and I imagine an actual writer ready to commit suicide if stuck writing those

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

[Deep breath in.........]

Wealthy men that are perpetually insecure in life because their fathers didn't show them any outward affection when they were children are blindly and joylessly driven to increase a bank balance that they couldn't meaningfully decrease in a thousand lifetimes in the hope that it will make their fathers ghosts smile and pat them on the head (ghosts who don't even put out the effort to haunt their children anyways)

I'm dizzy, what just happened?

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

When's the last time you donated to Lemmy.world?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

We’re all donating our time and attention to Lemmy, which is worth something even on a non-commercial site.

But yes, some of us also help with the costs and chores. I appreciate everyone who does but I also appreciate everyone who makes this an interesting place worth chipping in for

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

only if there are ads