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[–] MewtwoLikesMemes@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, I'm less worried about the speed and moreso I just don't like supporting Google's de facto monopoly of the Web's infrastructure.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] MewtwoLikesMemes@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They have ads in Chrome now? Yikes, it's worse than I thought.

Im'ma be honest. I've been using FF for so long that if that's the case I didn't even know.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

i was talking more about how mobile chrome can't adblock, so it has ads just not on the app itself, and desktop chrome will soon not be able to effectively

[–] MewtwoLikesMemes@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago
[–] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 5 months ago

Firefox has ads. Very many ads. Out of the box, Firefox sends everything you type into the URL bar to a 'search provider'. They also place traditional ads in the New Tab page, in the URL area chrome, and in your bookmarks. And probably other places I'm forgetting right now.
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/sponsor-privacy
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/change-your-default-search-settings-firefox

[–] ChallengeApathy@infosec.pub 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The thing is, using a Chromium-based browser isn't contributing to their monopoly unless Google holds sway over the fork. Brave, Vivaldi, those two are generally fine and stand against what Google has been up to.

[–] Vittelius@feddit.de 2 points 5 months ago

They are contributing to Google's hold over web specs. If Google decides to implement a feature off spec, then website developers will optimise for that implementation because it will be the implementation used by all chromium based browsers. And that leads to worse performance for other browsers with a more correct implementation.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Sure it is. Everyone starts trying to be sure things render correctly on Chromium based browsers and nothing else. Next thing you know people say "Wow Chromium based browsers render pages more reliably than everything else" and then you end up somewhere not too differently from where we were heading. Everything that's not based on Chromium starts getting tossed aside.

[–] jose1324@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I dunno. Using chromium with a little editing, but 90% og chromium is basically the same monopoly.

[–] Admetus@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

De-googled chromium works for me.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can't truly degoogle chromium without a hard fork. Soft forks are still enabling them and their grip on the web, even if they're not specifically spying on you in particular.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The Vivaldi team is working hard to gut the Google spyware in Chromium on every update. Because of this only security patches are in realtime, all other updates are 1-2 weeks behind. The rest remains as user choice in the settings (save browsing, Chrome Store (without Vivaldi isn't even recognized as Chromium), G DNS and little else). Therefore, Vivaldi can be seen a hard fork. No data sended to Google, nor other third party companies (excepting naturally extensions and search engines you use, they can be not so private in any browser, Mullvad also recommend to use less extensions possibles).