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[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Do you mean ancaps? Because I'm pretty sure most libertarian would be for universal healthcare. I have heard Americans use libertarian for ancap which are pretty opposing ideologies, I'm not sure what's up with that.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

American libertarians hate anarchy and love order. They believe there should be zero government to enforce that order. They also believe they should not be held to any laws.

There's not a lot of thinking behind those eyes.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Anarchy and order are very much not opposites (There's an O in the logo!), you might be thinking of anomie which means the absence of (legal, social) norms.

From the random yanks I see on the net the dividing line between ancap and libertarian is how open and/or conscious they are about their radicalism, though even ancaps of course fall short of admitting that they're neo-feudalists. Basic differentiating factor from ordinary monarchists is that they want their King (not too uncommonly, it could also be a Queen) to rule by grace of capital instead of god. Which, if you ask Stirner, isn't really much of a distinction both are spooks.

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

I’m pretty sure most libertarian would be for universal healthcare.

I'd be hesitant to say "most", but some, for sure.