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[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I can't really understand the tradition of never trusting the government in the US

I used to trust them, before 9/11 when I was young and naive. Then the attack happened. We ended up with bipartisan legislation to strip our civil liberties, torture captives, spy on citizens in direct violation of the bill of rights, and invade 2 countries that had nothing to do with it. Never again.

People have no say in what corporations do

Shareholders do. They get a vote. The government is essentially a mutual fund you're legally obligated to buy into.

If people don't trust the government the attitude should be towards fixing it and enabling trust, not to accept it as is.

I agree. I also believe we should take care of that before we go granting them vast additional powers.

We are many times smaller than the US but we have minimum income, universal healthcare, unions are the norm, etc.

Thats a good example of why universal healthcare doesn't need to be at the federal level here. States like New York and California are larger than many countries which have universal healthcare. What's stopping them from passing it themselves?

[–] kureta@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I agree. I also believe we should take care of that before we go granting them vast additional powers.

completely agreed

Shareholders do. They get a vote. The government is essentially a mutual fund you're legally obligated to buy into.

yes but they vote to maximize profit not overall social benefit

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

but they vote to maximize profit not overall social benefit

They're the same people that are voting in elections.

[–] kureta@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago

They are a very small subset of those people, and they are not a proportional representation of all types of people.