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I didn't used to understand foreign involvement in wars, like the whole America-Vietnam shenanigans. But I can see why after watching this Israeli Palestine Conflict since birth.

But now it's like watching two children fighting over who's sandcastles can be built in the sandbox. And what do we do if children can't learn to share? You take away everything and no one is happy.

So is that what this is going to come to? Do adults need to intervene to quell the infants?

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[–] pancake@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Israel was basically created by the West, in land that belonged entirely to Palestine. Then, decades later, with Western help, Israel had conquered half of that land, and the UN just decided to enshrine the borders at the time. Now, some more decades later, Israel has expanded way beyond those "compromise" borders, thanks to even more Western help.

There is no "internal conflict" that the West needs to help ending. It was always the West, seeking to create an allied enclave in someone else's land. Or, to build on your metaphor, this is a fight between the adults and the only child who was there from the start, because they want their own kid to play there instead.

[–] bioemerl@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] pancake@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Indeed. Do you disagree on what I said?

[–] 3ntranced@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why not just deploy some dual faithed Messiah figurehead and mesh the two into some Israelistein city state and trick then into getting along?

Having this past year read the Bible(inc. apocrypha), the quaran(Nobel Eng. Translation), as well as the Torah,Talmud, and a slew of other Hebrew and Ethiopian texts I've tried to gain a straightforward understanding of what each person in these faith groups is 'thinking' when they argue their point.

The blinding reality is, it is the fucking. Same. Shit. You can swap entire chunks of the quaran and the new testament, or the Torah and Egyptian creationism and you wouldn't be able to tell. The same points are being argued for the majority of each cannon, the only difference is the human "prophets" who are "spoken to by higher deities" and we're supposed to take their word as truth.

So in short, the Middle East isn't really fighting a holy war, it's a sinful human war on holy land?

[–] manapropos@lemmy.basedcount.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s a bit ingenious to think it’s so easy to just get some actor to play Jesus pt 2 or whatever. At best, everyone sees the blatant bullshit play for what it is. At worst, you spawn some cult of crazies who are dumb enough to make a government psyop into a religion

[–] 3ntranced@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Didn't the CIA get like hundreds of people go follow some cult guru back in the 80s? I know Documentary Now! did an episode that parodied whatever I'm referring to.