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Seen a lot of posts on Lemmy with vegan-adjacent sentiments but the comments are typically very critical of vegan ideas, even when they don't come from vegans themselves. Why is this topic in particular so polarising on the internet? Especially since unlike politics for example, it seems like people don't really get upset by it IRL

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[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 165 points 6 months ago (8 children)

I've been a vegetarian for 15 years. People IRL often do get offended if you tell them you don't eat meat. I try my best to avoid saying it because it often leads to being lectured about proteins. Everyone suddenly becomes a nutritionist when you explain why you don't eat meat.

[–] ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 92 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. I try not to mention it to people if I can avoid it. I work construction and am surrounded by manly men tring to out man each other. I had one guy offer me bear jerkey and got bent out of shape when I declined. He wouldn't stop. He just kept on me about why I didn't eat meat. After about an hour of him asking again and again why I don't eat meat I said "meat's another word for dick and eating dick is gay". As problematic as it was, it worked.

It never cases to amaze me that a 250pound dude with a 40oz soda in one hand and a mouthfull of gas station pizza thinks he has the responsibility to lecture me about nutrition.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"meat's another word for dick and eating dick is gay". As problematic as it was, it worked.

It's both sad and hillarious that this worked. I wonder if you created a new vegetarian as well

[–] ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Probably not but I like to think it's created a feedback loop going on in his head endlessly. "Meat is manly. Meat is dick.'"

[–] illi@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

We need to take the small victories

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 33 points 6 months ago

My dad always acts like i'm close to dying because i'm vegan. I work out every day, he eats meat 3 times a day and even his vegetables are unhealthy as fuck. He's so overweight that getting into his car is super exhausting. Pretty weird if someone like that gives you tips on how to eat right.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago

As a life-long vegetarian, this has been my experience as well.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 30 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Why do they believe you only find protein in meat?

[–] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 45 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Lots of people are really stupid

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 37 points 6 months ago

And we've been (forgive the pun) fed propaganda by the industrial farming and food industry for generations, not to mention the religious right.

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You are not wrong. I am vegetarian for about 15 years and I've literally have had a father of a friend yell at me. He was telling vegetarians aren't real and if anybody would actually not eat meat for a couple of months they would die because they would be missing vital nutrients only found in meat. He was yelling at me to stop telling lies and be truthful.

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

The things he's eating often didn't eat any meat. Hehe.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Generations of marketing.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Some essential amino acids are difficult to find in adequate quantities on a vegan diet. If you don't vary your protein sources or make sure you are getting the right amino acids, then you may develop a deficiency, which can lead to poor health or even be fatal.

[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I have read that this is largely a myth based on a book from the 70s, and that while there are varying proportions of amino acids in different vegan protein sources, there is still enough of each so that you could easily get everything you need.

I read this in a book years ago that I don't remember the name of, but found a source instantly

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6893534/

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago

Ya, it's probably more correct to say any concerns are overstated. And I probably didn't help by saying "difficult". It's not difficult, just not as simple as eating any meat. And like I mentioned, as long as you're varying your protein sources, you will be fine.

[–] Inui@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm not saying you're incorrect. But I want to point out that many people who concern troll about how difficult vegan diets are to be healthy on are also people who don't question how unhealthy their current choices are when it comes to consuming soda, energy drinks, red meat, other snacks, etc. Some people do, but most people who ask me about nutrition are not people who count their own calories or try to balance all their meals. It's just as easy to be unhealthy as a non-vegan.

[–] zeekaran@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago

I know plenty of vegans and they're all healthier than average. I don't know any who have had issues with nutrition.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 6 months ago

I have a hard time hitting my protein goal and maintaining correct macros even with meat. I have looked at vegetarian options and I don't see how anyone could do it without just slamming multiple protein shakes a day. Which would destroy my digestive system. I'd probably be ok when I'm not bulking but I'd have to do a ton of research and basically forget about fast food options. If someone could lay out a vegetarian diet for me that would work I'd be more than happy to give it a shot but I don't have time to make that effort myself.

[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

I’m what I call “mostly vegetarian“ which means that I choose to not have meat, but will eat small portions on occasion. And boy does that just piss off people like no other. Worse is I get it from both sides, to either commit in full or just give in to my natural instincts and consume more red meat.

Sometimes I just want a salad. Sometimes I want some bacon crumbles on that salad. Sometimes I want 3oz of fish with a plate of veggies. But what I can tell you is 3/4 of my plate will have healthy veggies or fruit.

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 3 points 6 months ago

Just tell them you have alpha-gal, then they’ll leave you alone easier

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 2 points 6 months ago

I did get offended when, after a very successful date, I went to a shawarma place with her and we both had a super awesome shawarma with lots of meat. For the next date I made some pizza rolls with salami and she confessed that she actually doesn't eat meat.

I still tease her about that when I meet her nowadays.