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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] bstix@feddit.dk 60 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can't have hundreds of thousands of coal miners without jobs.

There are less than forty thousand employed in the entire coal mining industry.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for the fact check, I didn't bother to look up the numbers. Good looking out.

[–] Dukeofdummies@kbin.social 28 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You know what really irks me though? Even if we didn't go green. Those 40,000 jobs are going to vanish. Coal doesn't grow like trees. That mine will empty one day and it's going to get shut down without warning, without any severance packages, the company is just going to run. There will even still be coal in the mine, it's just no longer cheap enough to mine it.

Historically, that's how it happens. Even in this day and age the moment a better mine opportunity is found, they're gone. They make the town dependent on them, they use the town in every way they can, they donate to the schools and municipal water supply, and then they vanish without warning leaving the town in the lurch. Happens with copper, happens with gas, happens with silver and it happens with coal.

At least the green movement will give you a date, a head start, and at least an iota of sympathy.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In US, more people line up for the employment queue every week simply by turning old enough to work than those 36000 employed in the coal industry. Coal jobs is a total non issue.

3 million children are being born every year. We never hear anyone complaining about that? A lot of them will need to work 2 jobs, so that's 6 million jobs missing every year! The coal jobs is not even one percentage of that.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 5 points 7 months ago

Don't do the math! It makes all their fear-mongering look stupid!

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