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He doesn't want his party to fight against climate change, he wants to have his cake and eat it, too. The whole article is about coal and oil jobs, thinly veiled threats that anyone who isn't a conservative wants those jobs gone.
You know what?
He's fucking right.
I want those jobs gone. I want a homeless crisis of hundreds of thousands of coal miners without jobs. You know why? Because in 100 years the world will be healthier for future generations. I'm sorry that your job of choice is killing the planet, but I'm not willing to sacrifice the world for your fucking paycheck. Even though the bit about Biden telling miners to learn to code was twisted, I agree with the twisted message, too. Fucking find something better to do with your lives. I really don't give a shit what it is, just fucking do it. Suck it up, sacrifice and learn a new trade, and maybe your grandkids won't die of lung cancer at 45. I'm tired of waiting around for someone to have the stones to take action. I don't really give a shit any more, and if that makes me an asshole, I'll live with it, but fuck, this shit is getting old. If we move towards annihilation at 1mph or 100, it doesn't matter, we'll get there eventually. It's time to stop the ride. The warning signs have been there for decades. Your blessed Grand Ol' Party obscured the facts, and if you want to blame someone for you not having a job when the mine shuts down, blame them. They lied to you and told you that it was a hoax. The democrats just need to rip the bandaid off.
You can't have hundreds of thousands of coal miners without jobs.
There are less than forty thousand employed in the entire coal mining industry.
Thank you for the fact check, I didn't bother to look up the numbers. Good looking out.
You know what really irks me though? Even if we didn't go green. Those 40,000 jobs are going to vanish. Coal doesn't grow like trees. That mine will empty one day and it's going to get shut down without warning, without any severance packages, the company is just going to run. There will even still be coal in the mine, it's just no longer cheap enough to mine it.
Historically, that's how it happens. Even in this day and age the moment a better mine opportunity is found, they're gone. They make the town dependent on them, they use the town in every way they can, they donate to the schools and municipal water supply, and then they vanish without warning leaving the town in the lurch. Happens with copper, happens with gas, happens with silver and it happens with coal.
At least the green movement will give you a date, a head start, and at least an iota of sympathy.
In US, more people line up for the employment queue every week simply by turning old enough to work than those 36000 employed in the coal industry. Coal jobs is a total non issue.
3 million children are being born every year. We never hear anyone complaining about that? A lot of them will need to work 2 jobs, so that's 6 million jobs missing every year! The coal jobs is not even one percentage of that.
Don't do the math! It makes all their fear-mongering look stupid!
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The trick is to reduce demand, not supply. You close mines in US, they will simply open elsewhere.