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The sidewalks are really dangerous where I am, where they are super uneven, have "artistic" curves, and trees that are overhanging really low so like will hit my body.

I go max 15 MPH on my escooter and if I hear a ding ding I jump onto the sidewalk and go a bit slower until you guys pass, since I'm slower and can dismount easier it only makes sense for me to make room. I figure as long as I make room it "shouldn't" be a problem.

But just wondering if there are any bike riders that are just like shaking their fist at escooter riders.

EDIT: USA!

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[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I don't mind bikes, E or otherwise, in the bike lane, I do mind gas powered scooters, vespa etc. I'm not sure I can put a pin in why, except they stink and often are riding too fast and weaving in and out wrecklessly and just using the bike lane as a passing lane, returning to the regular road when they can

Why? Because the gas ones will actively ruin the bike path. They are much heavier and will cause much quicker wear and tear. Of course you also shouldn't have to breathe the fumes from them.

[–] electromage@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Noisy and stinky should be enough. But yeah they often seem to be driven by people who don't regard others.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

Hell i don't even really mind electric golfcart-like vehicles on bike infrastructure, so long as they're for commercial use, there's enough space to very comfortably pass them, and they go really slow.

Way i see it that just means businesses are going to be pushing for more and better bike infrastructure rather than expanding the roads.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's illegal here. Motorized vehicles must ride in the road and obey traffic laws. Bicycles must ride in bike lane or road and obey traffic laws. Sidewalk for walking people or wheelchairs or similar.

[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But electric is ok? Is it just combustion engines?

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The ones you stand on that go slowly? Our rules say you have to be 16 years or older and I was wrong, bike lanes are allowed, rules same as bicycle even though it's motorized. Bike lane or road, stop at lights like a car, don't ride on the line between cars.

In practice, I don't think people are actually getting ticketed for riding them on the sidewalk, and I don't really care either as long as they don't run me over. If you cause a car accident because you were on the sidewalk moving faster than a jogger then you would be at fault. Like a bike, sidewalk can be a dangerous place if you aren't moving slowly.

[–] ShustOne@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

My thoughts exactly. I welcome my scooter bros.

[–] Resistentialism@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

If it's a 2 stroke vespa, yeah, they have that smell. It's also an easier way to differentiate between old classics and new ones. I don't have any experience with new vespas, but I think they would've gone to 4 strokes now.

I'll also point out. At least in the UK, 50cc riders tend to be absolutely brain-dead morons.

You can usually tell which ones are the culprits because they've fucked their exhaust. And ride around like, "yeahhh look at me, I'm so cool with my shit sounding underpowered bike." No mate, you get maybe 35mph if you've de-restricted it, and you're borderline red lining it. Calm down. You just look stupid. Same goes for 125's sure they get a bit of extra speed and can get to 70, but it'll take like 2 minutes to get up to speed and abusing your engine.

Fuck most delivery drivers as well.

[–] redballooon@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

They’re faster than a bike, but not by much. That guarantees you have their stink in your nose for a long while, usually until paths separate.