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We are in agreement, humans do have value. My point is that a living wage is possible, but it requires effort and sometimes tough decisions. Everyone should have the opportunity to better their lives, but I disagree that everyone is entitled to a 'living wage' simply for being alive. Have you not been to a restaurant where the service was terrible? Do those employees deserve a living wage?
No context needed, unequivocally, yes.
It seems that where we differ is they yes, I do think that employee providing shitty service deserves a living wage. But more importantly, there's so much that people do for us that should be paid but isn't, or that isn't paid enough to live off of but should be. People who volunteer their time to clean up public spaces, to help take care of the sick and elderly or young children, people producing art for the rest of us to enjoy, people doing doing fundamental research on topics that aren't currently trendy, and likely many more that aren't coming to mind right now.
Their choice to provide shitty service is also a choice to not have a "living wage".
Just cut to the point and say you hate poor people already.
He seems to prefer his dog whistle. Makes him seem 'moderate'
Nah, I hate dumbasses. Like you.
If it were a deliberate choice, then sure, I'd agree with you. The issue is that it often isn't, and you don't know how much choice someone has until you've lived their exact life.
Providing shitty service is always a choice.
What do you consider to be shitty service?
I've been a waiter and can tell you it's probably because the boss won't pay for enough people or is trying to cram too many people into their establishment without investing in the required infrastructure and staff.
Tell that to folks having to work three jobs to provide for their family. The concept of the minimum wage was to provide enough wages for people to support their families (on a single income no less) with a forty hour work week. Now, there isn't a single state where you can afford an average apartment on a minimum wage job. Saying 'youre paid what you're worth' is just a fancy way of saying some people don't deserve essentials in a post scarcity society.
But yeah, we can just let kids work to add a third income to the household. That'll solve it.