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[โ€“] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 33 points 8 months ago (3 children)

"Fetuses are babies too!โ€œ

I bet 97% of people would scream in horror if a fetus would crawl towards them

[โ€“] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 24 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Brave of you to assume fetuses can crawl... in nearly all stages of development there are no developed locomotion muscles.

[โ€“] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Locomotion muscles or something:

[โ€“] THE_ANTIHERO@lemmy.today 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ahhhh my eyes MY FUCKING EYES

[โ€“] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

just use your celibate eyes instead!

[โ€“] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 months ago

All the more reason why it would be so unsettling.

[โ€“] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 8 months ago

That's an interesting point, and would make a dope video art exhibit. I'm not sure cuteness is quite philosophically sound as a way to measure personhood, though.

[โ€“] Funkytom467@lemmy.world -5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That's not a good argument, nor true.

A foetus is the stage after the embryo, when organogenesis is done meaning tissue and organs have formed, right up to the point of delivery.

This means at delivery, a foetus becomes a baby by coming out, no other changes.

So i wouldn't really call that difference relevant in a moral debate. The stages of development or number of weeks is, but you can't really distinguish the two without this specification.

That's why where i live we allow 14 weeks after the first absence of periods for example.

Edit : I don't know why i got downvoted, i'd love to hear why i'm wrong. Maybe just to be clear, i agree with abortion, just not this argument.