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Someone recently told me that they sometimes feel gaslighted around me because I effortlessly make them question their beliefs and feelings. Hearing that didn't sit well with me, especially since I've been pondering the question in the title for quite some time.

I've always been quite critical of myself and don't consider myself a very nice person. When I discover that someone doesn't enjoy being around me, I don't blame them one bit. It's not like I'm intentionally mean or abusive; quite the opposite, actually. I have very strong morals. However, this includes things like not lying, which means I always speak the truth, even if not everyone likes hearing it. I don't conform to many social norms expected of me.

Despite all of this, I have deep relationships with several people and especially the elderly and for example the parents of my past girlfriends have all liked me a lot. But I can't help but wonder why they don't see me as I see myself. I worry that I'm hiding the true me so well that people don't actually like me, but rather the facade I unknowingly maintain. Then again, a true psychopath probably wouldn't be second-guessing themselves in this manner.

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[–] Nemo@midwest.social -2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

No, because I knowingly manipulate the people around me. I'm firmly against violence, including emotional and verbal violence, so I make the effort to manipulate people with misdirection and incentives rather than threats or punishment.

Every manipulates others all the time, whether they know it or not, whether they admit it or not. The important thing is to do it ethically, and how can you do that if you're not aware of the effects you have on others?

It's good that you are engaging in self-examination in this way. I might suggest that there's a difference between being honest and being blunt. Just because you refuse to lie does not mean you always need to tell the truth, rather that you only tell the truth. You're allowed to keep silent, to leave a true-but-painful confrontation unspoken.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

Oh I definitely omit information. It's just that I don't say things I don't believe/mean.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The important thing is to do it ethically

No, the important thing is not doing it for nefarious or merely self-serving purposes.

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think most people would agree those are ethical concerns.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But not the only ones. There are almost infinite ethical considerations beyond being self-serving or nefarious.

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well, sure. Not sure if you're disagreeing or clarifying, honestly.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 8 months ago

Your comment is too broad. I'm tightening my position back.