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People keep talking about "Federalizing the National Guard" and now you've got other States pledging their NG to Texas in defiance of the Supreme Court (see image).

So is this what CW2 looks like?

P.S. I'm a Brit

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[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Attention is what they want. They want drama. They want the illusion of high stakes. We shouldn't give them what they want.

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Them defying the supreme court is a step they haven't taken before. It forces Biden to respond or look incredibly weak. Either he allows a red state to actively break federal law and make treasonous statements or he arrests Abbott. It's not just drama anymore.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's 100% drama. They've got you caught up in it.

No one in the National Guard is going to stop the CBP from cutting the fence down because their pension is on the line. The government of Texas doesn't control that.

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They were ordered to stop putting the fence up, ignored it, and continued to put the fence up. Yes, if the Texas National Guard is federalized they probably won't refuse orders but that has to be an active choice by Biden to do. Until then, they are under the Governor's orders which have been to ignore the supreme court ruling and federal law.

It is the definition of treason as the Governor is expected or trusted to obey federal laws.

[–] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Point of order: Nobody in Texas has been ordered to do anything. They're completely allowed to put up razor wire under whatever rule Abbot cited. The court order was to allow the federal border guys to cut the wire if they needed to.

Legally, Texas is allowed to put up wire, and also legally the feds are allowed to cut it. That's it. It's a literal Looney Tunes situation. The nonsense from Abbot and the rest of the Rs is just chest-puffing.

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

They've been ordered to allow the federal agents to carry out their duties but adding new wire has "effectively barred" the agents from doing what the supreme court has ruled they have the legal right to do. Yes, they're allowed to cut holes in existing wire but by constantly adding new wire and barriers, it's actively defying that ruling.

I know the ruling doesn't explicitly say "Texas can no longer put up razor wire" but this is like being told by your mom "your brother is allowed to play on the xbox" and you giving them an unplugged controller. They're allowed to play on the xbox, you're allowed to give them an unplugged controller, but you actively went against her ruling and earned a whooping.

[–] remus989@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Because the CBP barely tried to access it? I feel like the CBP was just told to wait them out, like a child. Let Texas have a temper tantrum and wait.

They probably had to wait for the fence cutting equipment anyway. This isn't the DMZ border with North Korea. If there was a pressing reason to do it, it would have already happened.

Like I've said before, if Biden really wants to access it he could just sign the federalization order at 8 AM EST. All the Guard troops would wake up to a direct order to sit their asses down or lose their pensions. By 10 AM Texas time, the fence would be on the ground or the Guard CO would be unlocking the gate.

But that's what Abbott wants to happen so he can escape this dumb situation he created. Biden is trapping him by not taking the bait. Now Texas looks dumb paying money to lose in court. Abbott wants Biden to do something so he can shout "Federal overreach!" and get donations.