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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by ULS@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world
 

Are there any (livable 🥺) countries that basically allow anyone to become a citizen? Specifically where an English speaker could get by.

Edit: by allowing anyone I mean poor people with no skills.

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[–] snooggums@kbin.social 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Most remote areas also have a lot higher cost of living since most things need to be shipped into the extreme environment.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

That's a good point. I know that in the US, pretty much everything costs more in Hawaii. Though...hmm. I'd bet that a big chunk of that might be the Jones Act, which requires any shipping from a US port to a US port without intermediate stops abroad to be done on a US-flagged ship with American crewmen, which is quite expensive. Net result, as I understand it, is that a lot of shipping between US destinations will do an intermediate stop at a port abroad. That works for, say, the Caribbean. But there isn't any non-US territory anywhere near Hawaii, so a shipper won't be able to readily use that approach.

googles

Yeah, it sounds like it's a factor and a bit of a touchy point for Hawaii.

https://www.grassrootinstitute.org/jonesact/

The 1920 Jones Act requires that all cargo transported between U.S. ports be on ships that are U.S. flagged, built and mostly owned and crewed by Americans. It is well known that the act adds to Hawaii’s high cost of living...

So I dunno if it'd be as bad for Svalbard.

Also, Svalbard's gonna be cold -- even if it's warmer than places at a similar latitude, it's still in the Arctic -- so heating costs will be higher there than most other places that people live.

[–] aturtlesdream@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I follow a youtuber who lives there, and Svalbard is really pricey. Food and anything else consumer goods wise as anything has to be flown in or paid to ship via freight ship. Also, housing is extremely limited, and it's hard to find without a job already secured, which may or may not be easy to get depending on who is looking

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

What kind of jobs do people work up there? What kind of jobs pay $110,000 in Svalbard?