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[–] iarigby@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago (4 children)

What are they talking about, self checkouts are great. It makes the shopping experience more fair for those with fewer items

[–] AnomanderRake@lemmy.ml 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I feel the people who don't like self checkout keep trying to push the idea that it's bad or putting people out of jobs, rather than just admitting it's convenient for most people. If i want to buy one or two items I don't want to queue up behind 5 people with a full trolley.

[–] mint_tamas@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I don’t like self checkouts, but not because of that. Probably depends on what chains you go to / where in the world you live, but it was almost always very slow and full of errors for me (most of the time, incorrectly detecting the weight of either side, thus stopping the whole process and making me wait for a human to unlock it). And even if everthing goes well, I have no chance to even reach half the speed that a cashier can.

The one exception is a clothing store that used RFID tags. You put the items in the box and everything is instantly scanned, no mistakes. If it were like that everywhere, I would much prefer it.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This is a very good point- consider all of the friction points that make self-checkout slow and cumbersome. How many of them apply to manned checkouts?

The weight thing is absolutely the most frustrating, and I would put money that it's not an effective theft deterrent.

I don't know if it's intentional, but the places around me seem to have largely solved the problem of cashiers being faster, by putting the slowest people on earth as cashiers...

[–] AnomanderRake@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I've never seen a clothing store using RFID tags before but that's quite interesting technology. I've just done some reading up on it and I hope more places start using it it seems convenient and something I'd like to see adopted on a large scale.

[–] havocpants@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Don't know what country you're in, but Decathlon in the UK (and possibly other countries) does this. There are no traditional manned checkouts in there at all.

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 2 points 10 months ago

It's pretty great. Though I'm sure it's built into the price (assuming they're talking about Uniqlo).

On the other hand, being able to walk into the supermarket, fill a trolly, then walk through an archway to get rung up...That would be pretty amazing.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

If it always has issues it makes sense you wouldn't like it, where I use it there are rarely any errors and there are usually regular cashiers still if you don't want to self checkout, personally I'd rather scan my groceries than have someone else do it. I do agree it would be much better if they had an RFID system like you mention though.

[–] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Before they put self checkout, we had a fast lane, 10items max. Now no more of fast lane.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Most grocery stores I’ve been to in the U.S. have regular self checkout and express checkout 10 items or fewer.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago

I have a lot of anxiety, sure I can just 'get over it' or ignore it and go to the actual cashier, but I love having the ability to scan things myself, it is also much quicker because I usually have less items than most. They still have the employee there, there are still other cashiers so I've never seen it get too hectic where I go.

[–] Spedwell@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Having express self-checkoit is great. The Kroger near me went full-self-checkout. They have large kiosks that mimmic the traditional checkout belt kiosks, except the customer scans at the head of the belt and the items move into the bagging area.

If you have a full cart, you scan all the items, checkout, walk to the end of the belt, and bag all of your items. Takes twice as long as bagging while a cashier scans (for solo shoppers), and because of the automatic belt the next customer cannot start scanning until you finish bagging, or their items will join the pile of your items.

It effectively destroys all parallelism is the process (bagging while scanning, customers pre-loading their items with a divider while the prior customer is still being serviced), and with zero human operated checkouts running you get no choice

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago

Depending on the system you have, some of them have a divider bar halfway down for that exact purpose.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

If you have a full cart, you scan all the items, checkout, walk to the end of the belt, and bag all of your items.

Okay? But there's no cost savings on my end and I don't have all the codes memorized, so it takes longer than if a dedicated employee handled it.

with zero human operated checkouts running you get no choice

The humans are still there, though. They're hovering over your shoulder to make you did the job right and you're not buying booze under-aged and you didn't steal anything. All the business has done is off-load the manual labor onto the customer and slowed down the checkout process as a result.

[–] Spedwell@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I was complaining too. Or am I not understanding you?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Definitely crossed our wires.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Especially those ones where you can grab a hand scanner to scan your items as you go, and use it to put everything into the terminal when paying.