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[–] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

That didn't happen when just 1 Senator went and didn't live stream his visit. If they really wanted to, they could have claimed he did something violent or something. There'd have been no way to prove otherwise. And he was able to get them to crack just by holding a press conference. The bad PR from 1 guy getting denied scared them so much that they let him meet Abrego Garcia.

So why do you think they'd do that if there was a large group and the entire thing was being live streamed?

[–] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 17 hours ago

Bretton Woods wasn't about military protection. It was about stabilizing the global economy and monetary system. It absolutely gave the US a ton of economic influence, but it didn't have anything to do with military protection. The Soviet Union even took part in the negotiations that turned into the Bretton Woods Agreement, although they chose not to sign the treaty.

The US' military hegemony came out of NATO, the Cold War, and the Marshall Plan.

[–] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 17 hours ago

...in Venezuela? One of the 2 countries in the western hemisphere we don't have diplomatic relations with? A country Trump tried to do a violent coup in last time he was in power? You think they're going to build a concentration camp for Trump and start taking prisoners?

You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, and it really shows.

[–] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not talking about just getting a picture. And you think Republicans will resign because....why? Because we asked them to? Why would they? This is all exactly what they want.

[–] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

And how will that accomplish more than his trip to El Salvador did?

[–] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

There is no chance in hell that all 300+ Republican Congress people are in on this grift.

This is a rather naive understanding of American politics. Yes, they're all in on it. Stopping hoping for the nice Republicans. They don't exist. They're all fascists.

Your suggestion is to keep trying to appeal to the better nature of Republicans. That's exactly what the Democrats have been doing for the past decade. Hell, it's what they've been doing since 2009. It doesn't work. They don't have a better nature. They want the fascism.

There is NOTHING Democrats can do in Congress. Trying to protest to Republican politicians directly isn't going to get them to change their minds. Van Hollen did more in a single trip to El Salvador to resist the fascists than anyone has done in Congress in 10+ years.

[–] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 17 hours ago

It's a definition, but hardly the only one.

[–] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 17 hours ago (7 children)

What is your suggestion? Van Hollen got them to crack just by holding a press conference. I'm suggesting they continue this line of attack, but to a greater magnitude.

Get a list of everyone that's been sent down there and get every Democrat who represents all 300+ of them in Congress, every single Democratic Representative and Senator from their states/districts. All of them go down and insist on seeing all of their constituents. Do what Van Hollen did, but on a larger scale.

What's your suggestion? Stay at home and try the same thing they've been doing for the past decade?

[–] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Anything but writing or passing legislation am I right!

How do you propose a party that doesn't control any branches of government pass legislation? And what do you think that would accomplish when the regime has already shown they're willing to ignore the law and courts whenever they want?

You want them to just sit in their offices and do the exact same thing they've been doing for the past decade? That's how we got here.

Yet 1 single Senator taking a trip down to El Salvador was enough to scare the Salvadoran government to let someone out of CECOT for the first time ever, even just temporarily to meet with Van Hollen. And you call this just a photo op? Just 1 guy taking a flight and hosting a press conference was enough to scare them into cracking. And you're saying he should have stayed home to write legislation that'd never even get a vote, let alone get passed into law?

You are a deeply unserious person.

[–] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

Just 1 single Senator was enough to scare them into backtracking on their previous denial and grant a face-to-face meeting with Abrego Garcia. He's been locked back up now, but, as far as I'm aware, this was the first time anyone locked up in CECOT has ever been let out even on a short-term basis to meet with someone outside the concentration camp.

And that's what just 1 Senator was able to accomplish. The bad PR of denying him was enough to scare them into it. So my question is, what could 40 manage to accomplish?

[–] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 17 hours ago

Peaceful demonstrations have ALWAYS played a part in every successful social movement. They shouldn't be the ONLY thing people are doing. They should be paired with more radical strategic actions. But solely relying on violence is also a losing strategy. We should embrace a diversity of tactics, not shout down people who are out there trying to do something.

[–] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Van Hollen on his own going down there was enough to cajole them into giving him a face-to-face meeting with Abrego Garcia. Two days ago half the people on the internet were convinced Abrego Garcia was already dead, but just 1 Senator was able to disprove that. The government of El Salvador was so afraid of the optics of denying just a single Senator that they backed down from their initial refusal and completely capitulated.

And you think it's fantasy that a larger number could accomplish more? You are clearly not paying the slightest bit of attention.

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