revolut1917

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[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

as socialists we do not aim to convince people by misleading them about our aims and practices. if you try that then you'll end up disappointing and pushing them away.

i don't expect him to say "ACAB" or be a Maoist but there are ways to phrase that kind of sentiment that will command majority support and legitimise that way of thinking amongst a populace constantly browbeaten into not thinking that way. instead he's choosing to legitimise the role of police in a society which generally mistrusts and fears them. and he already won the election that actually matters. he didn't back down on anti-zionism before he won the primary and it worked, so why start backing down on issues and flirting with mainstream democrats now?

[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Did you actually think Mamdani was going to abolish the NYPD

no, i'm not an idiot

He would be the fucking head of the NYPD, for Christ sake.

yeah that's basically the whole issue with this "just elect socialist candidates as Democrats" project that has so far resulted in nothing positive at all. based on Mamdani's climbdowns over other issues such as the intifada fiasco, this is just looking like another AOC situation and another bunch of wasted potential and energy that could have gone towards more useful organising efforts. Talking about jobs cops shouldn't do obviously suggests that there are jobs that they should be doing, which is a complete capitulation, unless you're some kind of liberal who believes in the legitimacy of settler-colonial police forces.

I don't see why he should moderate his rhetoric more given that he's already basically certain to win. He should be doing the opposite if he's a candidate worth supporting. But instead he's just going to keep moving right and legitimising the rightmost sections of the DSA, who are hell-bent on making sure the organisation never becomes anything more than another Democrat-aligned NGO.

[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (10 children)

the one that revolutionaries have been trying to build against American capital since the 1960s? including the campus uprisings and the largest wave of rioting in the US in history that both occured in the past 5 years? if you aren't aware of the use of that term to describe the role of left-liberal politicians in capturing and containing radical dissent that would otherwise lead to an escalation of struggle then you can just avoid participating in the conversation, you know.

[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (10 children)

unironically doing 4D political judo to twist Americans' brains into supporting leftist policies

come on man you can't "trick people into supporting socialism". a significant part of New York's population supports socialism and hates zionism, which resulted in his victory. he's not tricking poor people into voting in their interests.

[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

i mean praising the NYPD commisioner and shaking hands with those pigs is pretty alarming for me given that they're an occupying army who murder people constantly and beat the living shit out of anti-genocide protestors, but whatever. this impulse to justify the rightwards drift of DSA electeds no matter what has achieved so much in the past (look at AOC's stellar record for example), so what do i know.

And look at that fucking account lol

idc about the account you can watch the video or google his comments yourself

[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"doomerism" is just reasonable pessimism about electoralism within a dying empire

[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago (13 children)

i thought he sounded cool too but in the end it's just another counter-insurgency candidate trying to capture and waste as much socialist organising capacity as possible.

[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago

yeah that's true

[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (15 children)

https://x.com/HOTWisconsin/status/1952418431816351973 video here. he's always been soft on the NYPD but yesterday ramped it up. it's not "fatalistic doomerism" to point out that the Democrats are a Nazi party actively committing genocide and anyone who thinks that project is worth "working within" is either compromised or stupid.

[–] revolut1917@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

who knew that this is what happens when you put faith in a Democrat? we've never seen anything like this before. usually the grassroot candidate goes way left after getting elected, not the other way around! anyway, let's make sure that this strategy gets replicated across the country...

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