multitotal

Well, you have a romantic view of the Human race, you'll grow out of it.

The Age of Discovery (c. 1418 – c. 1620),[1] also known as the Age of Exploration, was part of the early modern period and largely overlapped with the Age of Sail. It was a period from approximately the late 15th century to the 17th century, during which seafarers from a number of European countries explored, colonized, and conquered regions across the globe. The Age of Discovery was a transformative period in world history when previously isolated parts of the world became connected to form the world-system and laid the groundwork for globalization. The extensive overseas exploration, particularly the opening of maritime routes to the Indies and the European colonization of the Americas by the Spanish and Portuguese, later joined by the English, French and Dutch, spurred in the International global trade. The interconnected global economy of the 21st century has its origins in the expansion of trade networks during this era.

We literally call the period of global conquest, exploitation and genocide the "Age of Exploration". lmao

Yeah, I like slower forums, easier to follow and longer discussions.

Columbus was an "explorer". Turns out, Humans aren't very good at exploring, the temptation to touch and take is too great. Also, by our very nature of being somewhere we change that somewhere qualitatively.

We haven't even reached the limits of what we can learn from down here using telescopes, satellites and probes. Speaking of which, sending robots to explore makes much more sense than sending humans, don't need oxygen, water, food, that space can be used for other things.

Yet humans have a need to set foot somewhere, to plant a flag, because we're not explorers, we are conquerors. Try to see us from the eyes of the other animals on this planet -- we are monsters.

I didn't want to interrupt your discussion but I just wanted to let you and @freagle@lemmygrad.ml know that I was following it and found it interesting.

Which is also very unlikely, nigh impossible.

Also, the idea that humans will go out into the galaxy and settle on other planets is pure colonialist thinking. We have exploited and destroyed our planet, but instead of fixing it, we'll just find another planet to exploit snd destroy.

uploading our consciousness to a spaceship the size of a USB drive

Never gonna happen.

A human-style intelligence on an artificial substrate unlocks the potential for virtual worlds unconstrained by physical laws, operating at speeds beyond human comprehension

"Intelligence" is not the same as consciousness. We don't know what consciousness is and therefore cannot create it in something else. We can't even reliably recognise it in anything else, we only know other humans have consciousness cause we ourselves have it.

If that’s the likely progression of technological civilizations

Technical progression, much like evolution, is not goal-oriented. Everyone assumes technological progress necessarily involves better gadgets, but progress can also be in the way we use and consume technology, what role it plays in our lives.

"AI" is a fad. Anyone who has played around with the AI models knows they aren't actually thinking, but collating and systemising information. We're nowhere near "general intelligence" or "human-like intelligence". AI is useful for data analysis, fetching/storing information, comparison, etc. but it is not at the level of a baby or whatever they are saying. We simply cannot make human brains out of computers.

I used to think aliens visiting us was a possibility, but then all those Congress hearings happened and now I don't think it is real. Some of the records that recently came out contain testimonies from the 40s and some of the people giving testimonies sound like psyop subjects lol.

I don't play more than one game at a time, for some reason, and right now I'm into AoE4. I've been climbing the ladder as they say. Well, not so much climbing, more staying in place, but the struggle is fun.

I haven't played it, but I have some friends who do and they say it's super fun.

Free to play tactical FPS where you control a squad instead of a person. When one character you control dies, you switch to another member of your squad. This allows for big battles. You can drive tanks, planes, etc. too, if I'm not mistaken.

Yup, I know the feeling. That's why it can be nice to start fresh with a new installation or new distro.