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[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 7 months ago (55 children)

I used to think aliens visiting us was a possibility, but then all those Congress hearings happened and now I don't think it is real. Some of the records that recently came out contain testimonies from the 40s and some of the people giving testimonies sound like psyop subjects lol.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 7 months ago (54 children)

I strongly suspect that biological intelligence, like our own, may be a fleeting evolutionary stage, ultimately giving way to machine intelligence. Consider the timeline: billions of years of evolution to develop the human brain, followed by a rapid explosion of progress. Language, writing, and the exponential accumulation of knowledge arose within a span of just a few hundred thousand years. In a cosmic blink of an eye, a mere couple of thousand years, we catapulted from the Bronze Age to our current technological state.

If we don't annihilate ourselves, creating human-level artificial intelligence within this century seems a near certainty, perhaps even much sooner. A human-style intelligence on an artificial substrate unlocks the potential for virtual worlds unconstrained by physical laws, operating at speeds beyond human comprehension. If they inhabit simulated realities operating at vastly accelerated speeds, what we consider real-time would appear glacially slow, akin to observing continental drift – perceptible, but inconsequential to their timescale. Their relationship with the physical world would likely be entirely different from our own.

If that's the likely progression of technological civilizations, then it could explain the whole Fermi paradox and would mean that advanced alien civilizations might not find us particularly interesting. There might be a natural tendency towards solipsism.

[–] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 7 months ago (12 children)

I was presented to this idea of a virtual evolution via Accelerando, and it stuck to me ever since because of how much sense it makes. As far as we can tell, uploading our consciousness to a spaceship the size of a USB drive and slinging ourselves as vlose as we can to the speed of light is the only realistic way we have to travel the stars ourselves.

[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

uploading our consciousness to a spaceship the size of a USB drive

Never gonna happen.

[–] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Maybe not, but it's far more likely than traveling faster than light to other star systems.

[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Which is also very unlikely, nigh impossible.

Also, the idea that humans will go out into the galaxy and settle on other planets is pure colonialist thinking. We have exploited and destroyed our planet, but instead of fixing it, we'll just find another planet to exploit snd destroy.

[–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How is exploring other worlds inherently exploitative or destructive?

[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Columbus was an "explorer". Turns out, Humans aren't very good at exploring, the temptation to touch and take is too great. Also, by our very nature of being somewhere we change that somewhere qualitatively.

We haven't even reached the limits of what we can learn from down here using telescopes, satellites and probes. Speaking of which, sending robots to explore makes much more sense than sending humans, don't need oxygen, water, food, that space can be used for other things.

Yet humans have a need to set foot somewhere, to plant a flag, because we're not explorers, we are conquerors. Try to see us from the eyes of the other animals on this planet -- we are monsters.

[–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think this is bullshit. Just because a few people are assholes doesn't mean humanity is inherently bad or that exploration is always a bad thinng.

[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Well, you have a romantic view of the Human race, you'll grow out of it.

The Age of Discovery (c. 1418 – c. 1620),[1] also known as the Age of Exploration, was part of the early modern period and largely overlapped with the Age of Sail. It was a period from approximately the late 15th century to the 17th century, during which seafarers from a number of European countries explored, colonized, and conquered regions across the globe. The Age of Discovery was a transformative period in world history when previously isolated parts of the world became connected to form the world-system and laid the groundwork for globalization. The extensive overseas exploration, particularly the opening of maritime routes to the Indies and the European colonization of the Americas by the Spanish and Portuguese, later joined by the English, French and Dutch, spurred in the International global trade. The interconnected global economy of the 21st century has its origins in the expansion of trade networks during this era.

We literally call the period of global conquest, exploitation and genocide the "Age of Exploration". lmao

[–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 7 months ago

I can't grow out of the truth

[–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 7 months ago

It's a name. A misnomer/"Orwellian" name. Names perspectives hold power, but they aren't the end all be all of anything.

[–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 7 months ago

There are numerous potential methods to possibly achieve FTL travel, namely the Alcubierre Drive has lots of eventual potential.

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