lugal

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[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

I lost the game

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

"Darling, do you remember when we said, before we have kids we should have a pet and before that a plant to see if we can handle the responsibility?"
"Yes, sure! Why do you bring that up?"
"Well, the basile withered again."

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

There is a difference between "btw etymological this used to mean that but since X we use it in other contexts as well" and "no, you are wrong". The difference is one is fun at parties, the other is not.

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

The etymological fallacy...

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You are right that not all Bullshit Jobs have the idle time I'm talking about but enough to create this culture. But I can't say it better than he himself:

One might imagine that leaving millions of well-educated young men and women without any real work responsibilities but with access to the internet—which is, potentially, at least, a repository of almost all human knowledge and cultural achievement—might spark some sort of Renaissance. Nothing remotely along these lines has taken place. Instead, the situation has sparked an efflorescence of social media (Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, Twitter): basically, of forms of electronic media that lend themselves to being produced and consumed while pretending to do something else. I am convinced this is the primary reason for the rise of social media, especially when one considers it in the light not just of the rise of bullshit jobs but also of the increasing bullshitization of real jobs. As we’ve seen, the specific conditions vary considerably from one bullshit job to another. Some workers are supervised relentlessly; others are expected to do some token task but are otherwise left more or less alone. Most are somewhere in between. Yet even in the best of cases, the need to be on call, to spend at least a certain amount of energy looking over one’s shoulder, maintaining a false front, never looking too obviously engrossed, the inability to fully collaborate with others—all this lends itself much more to a culture of computer games, YouTube rants, memes, and Twitter controversies than to, say, the rock ’n’ roll bands, drug poetry, and experimental theater created under the midcentury welfare state. What we are witnessing is the rise of those forms of popular culture that office workers can produce and consume during the scattered, furtive shards of time they have at their disposal in workplaces where even when there’s nothing for them to do, they still can’t admit it openly.

David Graeber, Bullshit Jobs 2018 (p. 382 of 895 in my ebook version)

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I think you misunderstand my position. I'm not a cultural pessimist saying social media made us all into mindless zombies. You can use social media very actively by putting much thought into your posts and conversations and researching them thoroughly. And there is alot of stuff you can mindlessly consume at home long before the internet.

What I'm saying is that Bullshit Jobs created a whole new demographic with time on their hand to idly use online (since they work on computers) but not enough to be productive. As I wrote in another comment, in the time between meetings when a mail might come in or your boss might bump into you, a social media timeline is the way to go. You don't have a TV in office but access to the internet.

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

I would argue that forums are somewhere on the continuum and the "direct predecessor" of social media if that makes sense. You already see in which topics something happened which isn't too different from following a Facebook page.

On your last point, I disagree. Time is relative. There is a difference between free time you can actively plan and idle time between meetings where your boss could bump in any time. At the end of the day looking back, you might have had enough time to write an article, but there could always be a call coming in so you end up using that time looking at cat photos and arguing with strangers about football.

This might depend on the kind of BS job though. Graeber described a wide variety and for some, your argument works but not for all.

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I didn't read it yet but wanted to share that according to Graeber, the rise of social media (and podcasts btw) came with what he calls "Bullshit Jobs" (in the book of that name). Before that, browsing the web was a much more active process, you searched for forums, clicked on a topic you are interested in or went on websites and clicked through them, always deciding what to click on.

With social media came the timeline you could mindlessly scroll through or click on suggestions. That's something you can do at work when you have some free time and something might come in. It's not anymore "I want to know XYZ" but "Let's see what's new" if that makes sense.

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 weeks ago

Ich habe mich nicht gegen eine strategische Zusammenarbeit ausgesprochen als Front gegen rechts außer oder ähnliches. Aber das Problem ist in meinen Augen der Kapitalismus und der Wachstumszwang. Solange die Grünen an Wachstumszielen festhalten und am Märchen vom grünen Wachstum, werden sie das Problem nicht lösen. Die Hauptverursacher sind die Reichen und solange die Grünen den Armen alles teurer machen wollen, gute Nacht.

Ich hoffe, du wirst die Grünen nicht als antikapitalistische Kraft verklären. Natürlich sind sie ein kleineres Übel als andere, aber solange sie an einer Regierung beteiligt sind, die Lützi auf dem gewissen hat und weiterhin Autobahnen baut, demonstrierte ich auch gegen sie. Es gibt Untersuchungen, dass zivilgesellschaftliches Engagement zurück geht bei vermeintlich linken Regierungen und das finde ich gefährlich. Wahrer Wandel kommt immer nur von unten, durch Druck von der Straße. Den Marsch durch die Institutionen hat noch niemand unbeschadet überstanden.

Bei Wahlen entscheiden wir, gegen wen wir kämpfen und, ja, ich kämpfe lieber gegen links/grün als gegen AfD, aber ich höre nicht auf zu kämpfen, weil mir ein Habeck sagt, dass Abschiebungen nun mal rechtstaatlich notwendig sind oder Schröder die Hartz Reformen als unumgänglich dargestellt hat.

[–] lugal@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Die Kapitalisten jubeln wenn wir ihres gleichen auf unserer Seite wähnen, nur weil sie "Grün" im Namen haben. Nach deiner Logik kannst du jede Kritik an allem wegwischen. Ist die CSU auch für Klimaschutz? Nein? Spalter! Söder hat einen Baum umarmt, was willst du noch?

 

Since the last update, I don't see the total number of upvotes and downvotes but a ratio. So when it is at 0, I see 50% which is less interesting than seeing how many people interacted. Was it me upvoting and a single downvote or is it highly controversial with 100-100? Also: in a highly downvoted comment, I want to see how many people actually upvoted it.

Can I change this back in the settings somewhere?

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