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Thank you for your opinion :) I will be more careful how I write my posts.

I love my now only living grandmother. She is a friend to all of her grandchildren.

When my other grandparents were alive (and I was a child/teenager) our relationships were mostly formal.

(I am contemplating whether your are just trolling me and I should stop participating in this debate. But lets assume you really did not understood my point.)

1. You typed in google something like "EU failing privacy/democracy/freedom" and posted top results. And all those cases are real, but are cherry picked. Therefore I responded with a classical argument about why smoking is "not bad for your health". https://www.logicalfallacies.org/anecdotal.html
2. Your results did not include any actual indexes or aggregation of the data.

Please check this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freedom_indices especially "list of scores by country" where you also have some historic entries.

To help you with some conclusions:

1. EU countries are by far most free and private. Yes of course with their own issues but still way better than any other country.
2. China is awful regarding this topic.

So why I had a problem with your response: I strongly believe you already knew the above two facts. You just decided to ignore them and presented me with some problems eu has so you can win the argument. So... I do not like you tried to "win argument" with a logical fallacy which is counterproductive for the debate. And when we just throw random arguments so opposing point of view comes out as bad, everyone comes out a little more radical in their view and noone changes their opinion. And I spent some time writing those comments (not with research but by forming thoughts and sentences in my second language). By turning the debate to this "Facebook like arguing" you destroyed my effort to participate in this community.

Also in response to your latest accusation: I specifically told you I have a healthy relationship with freedom, and "they hate us for our freedom" does not belong in this category.

Another question. Why does this post have so many down votes? I have some ideas but I am not sure which is the real reason:

1. Asking about generalization could be considered unpopular.
2. Are communists down voting me?
3. Badly written post. (I mean English is not my first language and I do believe lemmy needs more content and I am trying to go out of my comfort zone and be more active user)
4. This topic is just unpopular?

"I have an uncle who smoked whole life and is 98 years old" I am sure you know what you have been doing when you presented your "evidence". Not cool.

Yes I have seen you in other comments. And we both know what is the actual state and level of freedom, poverty, and capitalism and corruption in China. Maybe organize a protest in China.

I know you like their system, but for some reason you fail to see issues with their system.

Correct!

Read all my statements again. And apply strict mathematic logic.

Few years of degradation of antitrust laws and some effective reforms in this year alone does not in any way prove your point.

I would not live there. I value freedom and privacy. (In a healthy European way)

This is simply not true. And whole EU is doing this more or less effectively. But your government has to be very very careful since this sure can happen.

In recent years we have seen degradation of this leash. But EU commission started keeping up with global monopolies.

I believe also in USA they are making some antitrust changes after a few decades of sleeping.

They have the most wild form of capitalism there is. And they married it with a lot of corruption and zero political freedom. This is not an alternative. Please.