ehpolitical

joined 5 months ago
[–] ehpolitical@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Yes, I'd say our thoughts can be distinct from each other... conversely, I can't see how all our thoughts can be mere variations of one original thought when we're obviously capable of thinking about many unrelated things.

Yes, I'd say memories are thoughts when we actively remember, and the experiences they stem from are the origins of those thoughts... but original only to us, not original in nature... unless we've somehow had an entirely unique experience.

No, we don't need to express ourselves vocally in order to be having thoughts... hence, private thoughts.

[–] ehpolitical@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Consider that every thought had to have been thought for a first time by someone. And thoughts and emotions are entirely different things, so that doesn't work. Interesting though, what you said about our first thoughts being original... that hadn't occurred to me, need to think about that one.

[–] ehpolitical@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Not true... every thought had to have been thought for a first time by someone, just not by us (it seems).

[–] ehpolitical@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Was he somehow forced to include the AG?

[–] ehpolitical@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 months ago (8 children)

I've never had faith in politics, this isn't helping.

[–] ehpolitical@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago (8 children)

A thought that came to you entirely independent of anyone else's thoughts... something that no one before you has thought or imagined, so that it includes absolutely nothing that's already familiar to you.

[–] ehpolitical@lemmy.ca -2 points 4 months ago

Doesn't work... you're still thinking of things that have been thought by others before you, which is why it occurred to you to even think about them.

[–] ehpolitical@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

Yes, that would count as an original thought... whether someone else had already thought it or not doesn't matter, as long as you yourself thought it entirely on your own.

[–] ehpolitical@lemmy.ca -1 points 4 months ago

It only occurred to you to think of these things because others thought of them before you, and you heard about them... sodium, bath, bath bomb, etc. So not 100% original. Try imagining something that no one before you has ever imagined before, in any shape or form. I can't do it and trying boggles my mind.

[–] ehpolitical@lemmy.ca -2 points 4 months ago

100% original... fish and regurgitation and upside-down and top hats have all been thought of before.

[–] ehpolitical@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (6 children)

You've got it. I don't think I was clear enough asking the question. Might have done better asking if anyone's ever imagined anything that's never been imagined by anyone else before in any shape or form... I don't know. Funny, not even sure how to pose the question so it's clear. I tried reasoning along similar lines as you, and ended with the conclusion that every thought must have been thought for a first time by someone... we just got here after the fact. And those thoughts, once original, have all followed us into the present... which tells us it's indeed possible to communicate entirely original thoughts. So, what do you think?

[–] ehpolitical@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

Lol, upvoted for honesty.

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