Money is labor hours exchanged for equivalent goods and services. It’s a loop. If there’s no one to labor, and no one to buy the products of that labor, money isn’t anything.
artificialfish
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I’m not saying capitalists as individuals do this. I am saying that capitalism as a system will ultimately do this. Capitalism survives is kinda its claim to fame. It was never going to take a long termist view and do what’s best for everyone, but it will protect itself. Whether that means government acts on its behalf, in the form of it acting on behalf of the insurance companies, or by shifting consumerism towards consuming solar panels and electric cars, it will ultimately find a way to exist. Literally no one on earth benefits from human extinction, corporate or otherwise, and eventually human decline WILL hurt sales. That’s when all the nations and corporations of the world will act. It’s bleak but true.
Well except that corporations ultimately profit off of consumer behavior. Keeping consumers alive as a class is indirectly encouraged in capitalism. AI has no such necessary desire.
We can see this in how things like housing and medical insurance industries are suffering from climate change now. Once some other big business is losing profit because of another one exploiting, they will fight, and then the issue will be taken seriously.
But AI also has no innate desires at all, except what we program it to have. So profit and war are almost certainly the goals it will have.
Find out what National union would support your profession and go help them out.
Usually you plug/unplug sata when it’s off. But I don’t think that should happen. Take it to a pc repair shop. You might have blown a fuse.
That the worst thing the left could do for itself, for its standing in the American population, especially in the present era, is to ridiculously focus on a moral crusade against meat. It’s another culture war topic that divides the working class.
People will stop eating meat when they can’t get it anymore, in which case nothing could lead to revolution faster, or when it grows in vats, no other reason.
I mean you’re the one who can’t imagine a person on the left not being vegan. Who can’t imagine more than two kinds of people in this conversation? Are you going to form a workers movement with those very same working conservatives you are upset with by telling them about how their cooperation in a union benefits themselves and everyone, or about a moral crusade about the animals?
Like sure we gotta cut down on animal products for environmental reasons, but that’s not veganism, that’s practical environmentalism. There’s no moral argument there. But to be frank, I and most other people do not care at all about the morality of eating animals, and will not be convinced to care, ever. An economy without animal products is not something most people ever aspire to obtain.
Lol, I'll add that to my list of things I need to be on the "left."
How you going to lead the revolution without guns and protein? Fuck workers interests and owning the means of production, we should be concerned about their diets!
Capitalists will sell you meat if you want meat and vegetables if you want vegetables, one is certainly more green, but not more left.
The worst thing the left could do is go after people’s meat.
Set environmental targets and cruelty laws, but get out of here with associating the left with veganism.
Why will people do things for you in exchange for money?
I’ve read a lot of that book. I know about the power theory of money. But the very concept of money is about power changing hands. A person who receives money now has power over someone else. Exploitation occurs when that exchanged power is less than the power the laborer put in. But there’s no way money can exist as power in a purely top down command economy. In that case, power takes a different form, like direct police action. Money as power can only exist when it can be exchanged for goods and services. That’s its gimmick as a medium of power. Other power mediums have other gimmicks.
And under that gimmick, capitalists actually do have a dialectical relationship to workers, and therefore to their means of living, their means of social reproduction, their environment. That’s Marxism.
So all money is power, but not all power is money.