Tinidril

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[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The US is hardly unique in this. Every nation has a closet full of skeletons, and there is a lot of evil happening in the world today that isn't the fault of the US.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social -1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The inevitable outcome I was referring to was the rise of fascism, and it became inevitable the moment we didn't take the historic opportunity to overthrow neoliberal control of the Democratic party. That was the window to a better world, and we missed it. A Bernie presidency would never have bowed to Israel and genocide.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 16 points 1 month ago (5 children)

It has to be a takeover of the Democratic party. Third party strategies are non-starters in a first past the post election system.

I think your assessment is 100% correct.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 6 points 1 month ago

Yeah! So we should vote in fascism!

Is that what I said? Anyone who voted for Trump did something they "shouldn't". Anyone who stayed home did something they shouldn't. Israel shouldn't have done a genocide. Biden shouldn't have supported Israel in committing a genocide. Yeah!?

I'm just adding that Democratic voters shouldn't have nominated Biden in 2020. Fascist victory became inevitable because of that mistake. The particulars of losing this election are almost irrelevant. If it wasn't Trump, it would be someone else. If it wasn't 2024, then it would be 2028.

The Democratic strategy of being marginally less shitty than Republicans is predicated on the assumption that voters will consistently make the most rational decisions in all circumstances. That was a dumb assumption and one that should die with this election. It's not good enough to be marginally less enthusiastic about supporting a genocide.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social -1 points 1 month ago

That's just human nature. If Democrats can't take that into account in their campaign plans, then they deserve to lose. If Democratic voters keep nominating uninspiring milquetoast neoliberals, then we deserve to lose too.

This outcome belongs to anyone who voted to nominate Biden in 2020, just as much as it belongs to anyone who didn't show up in 2024. The first outcome was always going to lead to the second. It was totally predictable (and predicted).

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 0 points 1 month ago (21 children)

Too lazy to assemble a complete thought so someone might know what the fuck you're talking about?

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I'd sure be happy if we were just starting Bernie's second term. With third way neoliberalism still firmly in control of the Democrats, an eventual fall to fascists was inevitable. It just happened to be this election.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If you can't organize a political movement, you definitely can't organize a revolution. Also, if history is a guide, the people with wealth tend to end up in power after a revolution.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago

Run for office, or find someone worthy and get behind their run. Don't worry about Republicans for now,vee have to defeat the Democratic establishment before we will have the ability to fight Republicans.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 7 points 1 month ago

The word fascism is rarely overused, people just don't understand that fascism is the most common political ideology in the western world. People think that fascism only applies to jack booted thugs and concentration camps when it is really just banal bigotry and arrogant incompetence.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 42 points 1 month ago

That's not a new war. It's the war behind all the other wars.

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